Dr. Fly Thu Sep 15, 2011 11:06am EST 16 Comments
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it’s disappointing to read shit like this
Someone probably needs to make it into a youtube video for the kids of today to understand.
Speak for yourself.
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Its very simple: we live in a society where it isn’t “cool” in the sexy/hip/popular/social sense among young people to be smart. Period. Probably anti cool.
As a society we celebrate football, if a kid can shoot a 3-pointer he is surely the chosen one, meant for all greatness. What about the kid with a good SAT score?
To some extent, this has always been, but we have also, in my lifetime, seen a societal shift in this area. When is the last time a smart guy was the hero in a movie? As a kid, this wasn’t so uncommon. Heck, way back before my time, spiderman’s greatest power was probably his mind, no? Today pop culture celebrates degeneracy (watch MTV a bit).
Apollo 13 was probably the last movie smart guys were the heroes.
… good call. it takes a true story to get a smart guy presented in a good light in the movies these days… lol
Howabout A Beautiful Mind?
The recent Sherlock Holmes pic w. Morton Downey Jr.?
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a beautiful mind? really? a movie about an insane person?
they CLEARLY focused on the cool aspect of sherlock in the downey pic, and not hte intellect. i rebuke these examples.
Simple answer: You find a place for your kids where being smart is not only respected, it’s become a competition.
There are still many many places like that, and if you don’t find them, shame on you. Blaming the culture is a lazy out… the masses have always been largely ignorant, and at this point in history, they are probably less so, give or take the margin.
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Jake, if you think over your comment you will have to admit that its short sighted. Can you create, for young children, any environment that they wish? Of course. Can you make sure that when they get to high school or college they are popular with the fellas, with the ladies, that they fit in, that they feel like they are on top. Of course not.
Parents can guide, or even mold, children for only so long, eventually they mold themselves in the society they go off to, period.
There is a guy from my hometown, frankly he was kind of a nerd in high school, but happened to be good at baseball. He also happened to be the smartest kid in school when he was there. He also happens to employ a few dozen people and hold some patents and pendings and once started a business that probably created a hundred jobs by now if it created one. Once upon a time that kid stopped by the bar in his lil one horse bullshit midwest home town, and someone did say:
“hey, aren’t you blah blah’s boy?”
“yes”, I heard him reply.
“you’re the boy that took blah blah #2 downtown back in 91 and won the county tournament aren’t you?”
“yes”
“i remember you”, conversation ensued.
On a billboard just outside of town is a gigantic poster, paid for with property taxes, of Mr. Basketball 2007. Never mind the successful entrepreneurs or the girl who invented a vaccine and got a free ride out of that bullshit midwest town to the ivy league, no joke.
Those things don’t matter, jakie. What matters? Some kid hitting a baseball over the 305 sign in center field, in a game watched by a hundred people.
Its deep-rooted in society, jake. That town, my stupid little midwest town, has given rise to literally 2 of the most successful entrepreneurs in the state and a medical genius. But we have Mr. Basketball on the billboard that the town paid for, because thats really, really important, and when said entrepreneurs show up in the local tavern, they aren’t remembered for inventing stuff, but for swinging their old dented aluminum baseball bat at a hanging curve.
Its society wide, jake, its in your avatar. We worship sports and fame and such, and we work very hard to hold contempt for hte things that actually build a good society.
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I disagree. I mean, I agree people think sports dudes are cool and all, and people really like their sports, but give me a break…
Given the choice between meeting Lawrence Taylor and Steve Jobs?
Not even a question.
Serious people revere expertise that is going to benefit them and their society. While I think LT may be the best defensive player to ever put on a uniform, that knowledge is not going to help me put my kid through college.
I have a similar guy that I am friendly with. Big college track star, good looking Nordic type. What people remember him for, however, is starting a 1,000 unit restaurant chain and cashing out in the IPO.
Jake
We had this discussion before and I’m going to make the same argument to you now that I made back then…
You’re a smart guy, and so you can make good decisions regarding your kids. They will probably grow up to see more opportunities and moreover, know how to take advantage of them…
The majority of society, unfortunately, falls into what checklist describes and I agree with
I agree checklist.
Easy to profit off of, right Global Bankers?
What??
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It’s amusing how each generation of parents and grandparents think the kids get dumber, while conduct and moral standards are decreasing. While during the last few centuries, things have constantly gotten better.
Less wars, less homicides, better education,…
At every time in history you’ll have some things that are not as good as 10 or 20 years ago, but if look at it in broad perspective things get better all the time!
If SAT-scores go down, because more people than ever want to go to college, is that a good or a bed thing?