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Early Morning Thought

Futures are a lagging indicator.

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111 comments

  1. cheesefried

    LOL

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  2. Richard A.

    Bernanke just replaced Santa with a Bear Killing Robo Santa.

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  3. Vikram Pandit

    Chuck Prince is a douche

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  4. Alvari40

    Dipshits are a lagging indicator.

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  5. Dinosaur Trader

    Wow… flaming bears.

    -DT

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  6. Alvari40

    Have fun with your fucking shorts. Scared pussies.

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  7. Steve

    Holy shit, bears are dead.

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  8. LLoyd Blankfein

    The sell stops have now been cleared.

    Today’s game will be to go after the buy stops @ 1500.

    I am getting an early start on my ’08 bonus.

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  9. ASSHAT DIP BUYER

    Foaming at the mouth Bear-shitters are the worst of the lagging indications.

    Don’t look now but Santa has just been spotted.

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  10. chivasontherocks

    bernanke loves santa and hates bears. lmao. they appear to be very serious. global coordination. no matter how bad things may be, cannot fight them in the short term. they win short term and maybe even long term. santa is back.

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  11. Big Chief Fuckemup
    Big Chief Fuckemup

    Many balls will be lit a’flame

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  12. Bison Burger

    Thank Ben for this schizophrenic market.

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  13. Bears knee capped by Bernanke Claus

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  14. TraderCaddy

    Ben will get his bonus check this year from GS. Bear markets have now been made illegal.
    I am just pissed because I bought XLF at 3:59 yesterday PM for 30.26 and sold it this morning at 8:52 for 30.55. It is now @ 31.40 or so.

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  15. DPeezy

    It’s only fair that the bears get knee-capped by Bernanke Claus today. He tried to kill all the bulls yesterday. The ones who survived now get to feast. BUYBUYBUY!!!

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  16. big snacks

    please refer to my late yesterday post… ” last chance to buy stocks this year”

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  17. JakeGrinch

    Ber-cranky can only “assuage” so much.

    Enjoy your dead cat, poltroons.

    Re-loading on the unwarranted Christmas Joy.

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  18. Woodshedder

    Does this action remind anyone of a chicken with its head cut off?

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  19. ottnott

    Whatever you do, don’t stop to think about why the central bankers are in such a panic.

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  20. Steve

    The Fed is not going to let this market go down, if that isn’t clear to anyone by now, you should check out the vanguard series of mutual funds.

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  21. Alvari40

    Shedder,

    Don’t try to redirect the conversation – leading, lagging – fuck that. The real conversation is whether we get a bullish engulfing today. We do, you are back to flipping burgers my bearish friend.

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  22. Woodshedder

    Alvari, I didn’t redirect anything. You stated employment was leading indicator. I simply asked if that was true.

    I will focus on the technicals and leave the fundies to others.

    Absolutely, if the indexes can print a bullish candle today, then that would be bullish. I don’t think they will, but as I’ve stated numerous times, I’m not aggressively trading either direction, so it doesn’t have anything to do with my account, or flipping burgers.

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  23. Woodshedder

    Unfortunately, for a while, I have to “watch” the action via Yahoo 20 min delayed quotes. Sucks.

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  24. Alvari40

    shedder,

    I know – I was redirecting the conversation. I may have been mistaken about that leading-lagging comment (I admit it). However, the more important technical question is whether we get the bullish engulfing. From a technical standpoint, I will be piling in for the short term if we do. As for burgers, have you ever had a Kobe Beef Burger? Nice!

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  25. Pudfucker

    Quick Alert:

    Bernanke has successfully de-nutted both the bears and the bulls in two days. Expect a sharp decline in the population, since we’ve all been castrated.

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  26. TraderCaddy

    These days I would rather flip hamburgers than be a daytrader. Less stress and free food plus a 401K.

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  27. ottnott

    Steve, the Fed isn’t trying to keep the market up.

    The problem they are addressing is that banks, who know what kind of crap they have in their loan portfolios, are especially reluctant to lend to other banks out of fear that the other banks might have equally crappy portfolios.

    The banker action solves the problem if the assets underlying the loans stop going down in value. If they keep going down, the banks will continue to need to hang on to their capital.

    In the case of real estate and the securities based on mortgages, the value is going to keep going down.

    The bankers are trying to buy time, but they are chasing a moving target.

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  28. Propsectus

    The Fed loves buy and hold investors and hates traders.

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  29. Propsectus

    @TraderCaddy: And the pay is better too.

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  30. ottnott

    Nice one, pud

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  31. Steve

    Gee, thanks ottnott.

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  32. TraderCaddy

    You got that right Propsectus.

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  33. Steve

    In other news, the Fly once again threw in the towel only to watch the markets rip higher.

    Long live The Fly bottom.

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  34. big snacks

    fly.. i love your website.. but you did nail the bottom once again..

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  35. ottnott

    Those stupid double blue underlines makes reading this blog like listening to a commercial AM radio station.

    I’d gladly double my subscription payments to get rid of that crap.

    Maybe I can have fun with them.

    Click on the link if you are an idiot investor.

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  36. Henry M. Paulson

    You guys just don’t fucking get it.

    Bernanke is a tool. I will use him to wipe you all out. period.

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  37. JakeGrinch

    Yeah, another “V” bottom, twice in two weeks.

    Man you guys are a hoot.

    Meanwhile, here in Grinchland, AKAM decides it won’t particpate in the dead cat and instead begins “the dead cat decomposition.”

    IOW, “Jake wins!”

    (Again)

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  38. ottnott

    I see. Nobody wants to advertise to an idiot investor, but idiot investors get the blue lines.

    Fly, do you get paid every time there’s a double blue line, or does someone have to click?

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  39. Bison Burger

    Thank Ben again for waving the French flag and telling the world we’re in financial trouble in a creative way.

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  40. Brian

    love making more money

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  41. Propsectus

    About the blue lines: Firefox + NoScript = happy internet retard

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  42. ottnott

    steve: on the internet, everyone thinks the other posters are idiotic dogs. Nothing personal.

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  43. Woodshedder

    Ottnot, click a bunch of times on all the blue lines, and then Fly will let you know. Then click more and more.

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  44. ottnott

    I think each key word only gets underlined once per page.

    Anyone paying for options lawyer bankruptcy refinance zero down ?

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  45. Woodshedder

    Here’s a question- if the market gaps and craps today, will the bulls give up?

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  46. Steve

    No sweat, ottnot. My post was shallow and generic anyways.

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  47. ottnott

    Wood: already doing that. I read every link and every ad on every page. That’s how the Mother Ship delivers secret messages to me.

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  48. Sergey Brin

    ottnot –

    I win

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  49. Bison Burger

    About time to re-short.

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  50. ottnott

    Sergey:

    You are doing evil in China

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  51. chivasontherocks

    wood,

    the mkt had ran up 1000+ points in anticipation that the fed would do the right thing. it got very overbought in that process. if this announcement would have taken place yesterday, its possible that the mkt would have sold off. sell the news type of thing, just backing and filling. i actually hope we rest for 2 or 3 days before trying again.

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  52. Woodshedder

    Its funny how with only 30 minutes of trading action completed for the day, everyone already knows how it will turn out.

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  53. JakeGrinch

    Pud –

    Funny.

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  54. Sergey Brin

    Ottnot-
    I bought Tiananmen square

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  55. newequity

    fuck you shorts, you’re dead.

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  56. Woodshedder

    Chivas, I agree completely. The run-up was an over-reaction to a previous over-reaction, and the sell-off yesterday was an over-reaction to these over-reactions.

    What does it all mean?

    Much fear, uncertainty, doubt, and volatility.

    Again, life does not go easily into the good night, and neither will the markets.

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  57. JakeGrinch

    Yes, Chivas, that panic dump yesterday was just normal “backing and filling.”

    Pay no attention to the “fill” which is worthless mortgage paper.

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  58. JakeGrinch

    Have a look at AKAM Newq, and tell me how dead I am.

    (Hint: not as dead as AKAM money)

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  59. chivasontherocks

    wood, agree 100%. sounds like you’re describing a wall of worry.

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  60. Woodshedder

    Anyone notice that BKX is not confirming this rally?

    Chivas, yes, but the wall of worry is typically bullish. I still hold to my thesis that the wall of worry will eventually overwhelm even the most stout of bulls.

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  61. Frosty

    One hour of green trading doesn not a market make…this little fed curve ball in nothing, yes nothing…ripping the tape from stem to stern is neither tranparent nor a confidence builder…not taking the bate here…bite me Ben, you slick dick prick.

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  62. this is not a market for being 200% long or short … Kass is right, smaller positions both ways … stay liquid & take advantage of the swings

    but yesterday put another nail in the bulls coffin

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  63. cigars3

    Why do you base your whole outlook on the fact that AKAM is down? Who cares?

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  64. Robert Stack

    Its quiet out there….
    too quiet

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  65. Juice

    AKAM is the new tell

    well, maybe not but I’m with Jake on this one

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  66. Dinosaur Trader

    Santa’s “FED Chairman disguise” is pretty good.

    I just hope he finds the time to deliver the toys too.

    -DT

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  67. Juice

    Ken Heebner rules

    I bought PBR when he was on bubble-vision yesterday

    up a quick 7

    bow down to greatness retards of the internets

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  68. JakeGrinch

    Cigars,

    I don’t base it there at all. But it was one of my five shorts. The other four were the cubes, RIMM, GES and JPM.

    I do think tech is going to take a harder hit here, as it has held up best thus far.

    For the same reasons I’m short JPM, and perhaps GS soon.

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  69. SaNTa

    Keebler Elves rule harder.

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  70. JakeGrinch

    Bruce…. you bought a twelve pack of Pabst Blue Ribbon?

    Maybe you should change your screen name to “Frank?”

    _________________

    Dino, Bernake is reminding me of that one Christmas special where Santa is too thin a month before Christmas, and Tanta Claus is force feeding him “Eat, Papa, EAT!!”

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  71. JakeGrinch

    Hmmm… seems the “coordinated efforts” of all the Central Banks is allowing institutions to sell the news this morning…

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  72. kmorph

    This morning I bought FXP for the first time this year.

    Listening to Bernanke yesterday, I realized that he is too much of an academic. I am sure that being a world-renown economist (I used his textbook in school for introductory Macro), his understanding of technical indicators is better than most. Unfortunately, he is a sub-par politician and is therefore too stubborn to give appearances and perception the proper place in his decisions.

    As a result, he will reinforce the pessimism about our economy by driving the markets lower. And recessions, to some degree, tend to be self-fulfilling prophecies. Out of all the economies we’ll drag down with us, China is likely to fall the hardest.

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  73. crawford

    Stay liquid for the holidays!
    The best advice I’ve heard so far on this board.

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  74. Juice

    no Jake, bought some fancy beers the other day .. 50% off inventory clearance at the local farmers market … going back for more winter inventory today … snow’s a coming

    short AKAM & its paying for fancy beers

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  75. Bison Burger

    Companies like SCA, ABK and MBI are not looking good.

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  76. Dinosaur Trader

    Jake,

    That would be Burl Ives’ “Rudolph The Red Nosed Reindeer.” As a father of a 3 year old (3rd birthday today) I am becoming an expert on the Christmas specials.

    Meanwhile, watch “Rudolph” now and a lot of it comes off as pretty creepy. They’re downright mean to Rudolph…

    -DT

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  77. JakeGrinch

    DT– Early sixties, before the Me generation turned the world into a bunch of softies.

    I’ve got four kids… I think I’ve got them all memorized now…

    My favorite is “Year Without a Santa Claus.”

    Appropos, no?

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  78. Juice

    GRMN is a short

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  79. BOOMER

    They are way mean to Rudolph! Poor freak.

    Also, the Charlie Brown special is nearly depressing. The guy needs meds. It is cool, however, to see how they celebrate the birth of Christ during that cartoon. You don.t see that today.

    I like the one with the gay elf dentist too. Reminds me of Woodshedder.

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  80. TraderCaddy

    Elf is a good recent Christmas movie.

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  81. newequity

    Word on the street is WaMu headed to zero.

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  82. Bison Burger

    I pick Schindler’s List and Pulp Fiction.

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  83. Bison Burger

    Pootie Tang is the greatest movie ever.

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  84. RiverRat

    For what its worth, the bonds seem to be pointing to this rally being for real.

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  85. JakeGrinch

    Pulp Fiction is excellent, thought not a Christmas movie, per se.

    Elf is my older kids’ current favorite.

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  86. acropora

    hey homos.. you know what you are witnessing first hand today?!

    STAGFLATION!!!!

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  87. Angelo Mozilo

    cfc is headed to zero

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  88. TraderCaddy

    AMD to zero.

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  89. Bison Burger

    Mozilo can open a tanning salon after CFC.

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  90. TraderCaddy

    Mozilo will be a club bouncer on South Beach (Miami Beach).

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  91. Bison Burger

    Mozilo can open a KFC next to the tanning salon after CFC.

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  92. Bison Burger

    Free wings for his subprime clients.

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  93. JakeGrinch

    Mozila can return to his primary occupation.

    Capo for one of the Five Famiglias.

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  94. ItalianAmericanDefamationLeague
    ItalianAmericanDefamationLeague

    There is no “mafia!”

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  95. Bison Burger

    I like 3 6 mafia.

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  96. ItalianAmericanDefamationLeague
    ItalianAmericanDefamationLeague

    Don’t forget our benefit dinner this year honoring our former Chairman:

    Carlo Gambino: Grazzie Padrone!

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  97. TraderCaddy

    No Santa Claus? No Mafia? What is happening to this world?

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  98. ItalianAmericanDefamationLeague
    ItalianAmericanDefamationLeague

    Gotti would never stand for a lieutenant tanner than he was.

    It’s “not done.”

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  99. Bison Burger

    Blame global warming.

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  100. ItalianAmericanDefamationLeague
    ItalianAmericanDefamationLeague

    I believe Boomer has a pic of “Mafia Santa” in his last PG post.

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  101. JakeGrinch

    Oopsie, down to a hunnit points in the green.

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  102. Bison Burger

    I love ABK. What a Xmas gift.

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  103. Bison Burger

    PAY – re-shorted.

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  104. TraderCaddy

    The blue lines seem to be decreasing in number.
    Let’s test.
    401K 401K 401K 401K 401K 401K 401K 401K 401K 401K
    401K 401K 401K 401K 401K 401K 401K 401K 401K 401K

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  105. SaNTa

    I think that triggered more of them.

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  106. LLoyd Blankfein

    The buy stops at 1500 have all been cleared out.

    Bilderberg and I are leaving for lunch.

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  107. JakeGrinch

    Good night Moon.

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  108. JakeGrinch

    Good night room.

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  109. JakeGrinch

    Good night light, and the red balloon

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  110. JakeGrinch

    Good night bears*.

    Good night chairs.

    ___________

    *(not really.)

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  111. Bison Burger

    We should be allowed to impeach Bernanke if not short him.

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