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NEW INTERVIEW: Bannon Talks White Nationalism, N Korea, And Knives Out At The White House

Steve Bannon has been taking a lot of heat lately from all sides, and recent reports have been rolling out suggesting he’s on his last legs. Combine that with Trump’s tepid defense of Bannon at his Tuesday press conference, and one might think it’s curtains for Steve.

Au Contraire?

Bannon went to great lengths to speak with The American Prospect’s (very liberal) Robert Kuttner – covering a spectrum of topics ranging from China, to North Korea to White House infighting, to white nationalism and the events in Charlottesville last weekend.

On North Korea, Bannon said there is no military solution, ‘they got us.’ 

“There’s no military solution [to North Korea’s nuclear threats], forget it. Until somebody solves the part of the equation that shows me that ten million people in Seoul don’t die in the first 30 minutes from conventional weapons, I don’t know what you’re talking about, there’s no military solution here, they got us.”

Bannon’s dire warning on China

“We’re at economic war with China,” he added. “It’s in all their literature. They’re not shy about saying what they’re doing. One of us is going to be a hegemon in 25 or 30 years and it’s gonna be them if we go down this path. On Korea, they’re just tapping us along. It’s just a sideshow.”

Given that China is not likely to do much more on North Korea, and that the logic of mutually assured destruction was its own source of restraint, Bannon saw no reason not to proceed with tough trade sanctions against China.

Knives out in D.C.

Discussing his internal adversaries at the departments of State and Defense who think they can enlist China to help with the situation in North Korea, Bannon said his enemies are in bad shape.

“Oh, they’re wetting themselves,” he said, explaining that the Section 301 complaint, which was put on hold when the war of threats with North Korea broke out, was shelved only temporarily, and will be revived in three weeks. As for other cabinet departments, Bannon has big plans to marginalize their influence.

“I’m changing out people at East Asian Defense; I’m getting hawks in. I’m getting Susan Thornton [acting head of East Asian and Pacific Affairs] out at State.”

“That’s a fight I fight every day here,” he said. “We’re still fighting. There’s Treasury and [National Economic Council chair] Gary Cohn and Goldman Sachs lobbying.”

Economic vs White Nationalism

I asked Bannon about the connection between his program of economic nationalism and the ugly white nationalism epitomized by the racist violence in Charlottesville and Trump’s reluctance to condemn it. Bannon, after all, was the architect of the strategy of using Breitbart to heat up white nationalism and then rely on the radical right as Trump’s base.
He dismissed the far right as irrelevant and sidestepped his own role in cultivating it: “Ethno-nationalism—it’s losers. It’s a fringe element. I think the media plays it up too much, and we gotta help crush it, you know, uh, help crush it more.”
“These guys are a collection of clowns,” he added.
“The Democrats,” he said, “the longer they talk about identity politics, I got ’em. I want them to talk about racism every day. If the left is focused on race and identity, and we go with economic nationalism, we can crush the Democrats.”
So what did that accomplish? Well – Bannon, an incredibly media savvy individual, went to great lengths to tell ‘his side of the story’ to a very liberal publication – crystallizing his views on non-intervention in North Korea, economic war with China, and Neo-Nazis. Perhaps Bannon is trying to redeem himself in the court of public opinion – however if we are to believe reports of his impending involuntary retirement, it may be too little too late.
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3 comments

  1. traderconfessions
    traderconfessions

    “Ethno-nationalism—it’s losers. It’s a fringe element. I think the media plays it up too much, and we gotta help crush it, you know, uh, help crush it more.”
    “These guys are a collection of clowns,” he added.

    Fly.. SAC..Cricket, Derp and the rest of you clowns… sorry for your loss. One of your heros just took a big dump on your face.

    And you are still supporting Trump… A man .. not talking politics.. a man.. who can’t even bring himself to unequivocally condemn groups that spout an ideology that would to kill his daughter and grandchildren. Supporting his policies is fine.. but not this pathetic little man.

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  2. Cricket

    TC Nobody here is an ethno-nationalist. Nationalists maybe, ethno-nationalists no.

    You are clearly suffering from a condition known as “Trump-Denial” syndrome, you know, love/hate being two sides of the same coin. Being magnanimous in victory, however, we’ll keep a seat for you on the Trump train. C’mon, get on board, you know you want to.

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  3. traderconfessions
    traderconfessions

    Thanks for the offer.. but Ill walk.

    No Ethno-Nationalists… read SAC and some others. I think you suffer from the same malady.. but in your case it induces blindness and obliviousness. But it will be cured soon by Doctor Mueller.

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