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Bill Maher Shuts Down Conspiracy Theorist Louise Mensch And MSNBC’s Chris Hayes Over Islam – Twice!?

Friday’s episode of Bill Maher featured a panel including batshit crazy Russophobic Conspiracy Theorist Louise Mensch, Hillary Clinton shill Chris Hayes, “tyranny expert” Timothy Snyder, and American Conservative Union chairman Matt Schlapp.

In two particularly heated moments, one during the main show and one during the online Overtime segment, Maher shut down Mensch and Hayes on the topic of Islam. During the main panel discussion, Maher brought up Wednesday’s London terror attack in which a 52 year old Muslim convert – who had been previously investigated by British Intel – mowed down pedestrians and stabbed a policeman outside of London’s Parliament.

Louise Mensch, a rabidly anti-Trump Russophobic neocon who is suggests Putin is responsible for Islamic terrorism in the EU, oh, and that the Kremlin is behind the Anthony Weiner sexting scandal (among other things) – told Maher that the London attack has “nothing to do with Islam.”

A shocked Maher challenged her, saying “Every time some bomb goes off, before it goes off, somebody yells ‘Allahu Akbar.’ I never hear anybody go ‘Merry Christmas, this one’s for the flying nun!’

“Are there Christian terrorist armies like Isis, Al Qaeda, Boko Haram, Al Shabab – are there armies like that in the world that are not Muslim? Let’s not fuck around. Can we please get real?”

In Maher’s Overtime segment which did not air on HBO but was made available online, Maher once again goes toe to toe with Mensch and Chris Hayes – asking the question:

If a European country sometime in the future became 51% Muslim, would it be the same country? Would it have the same values, the same laws? Would the laws change?

Mensch backpedals to the fact that homogeneity and fear over different cultures is the issue, to which Maher replies:

But, I’m talking about our fundamental principles like equality of women, separation of religion and state, respect for minorities, rule of law, as opposed to religious rule.

Mensch had nothing…

Later, when MSNBC’s Chris Hayes tried to needle guest Matt Schlapp over Islam in Indonesia – Maher jumps in and shuts his fellow liberal down – talking about how women wanting to enter the police of military have to submit to the “two finger” test to prove they are virgins.

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48 comments

  1. purdy

    That show is painful to watch. Dumb host, dumber guests …audience yet even dumber.

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  2. t.c.

    Diversity is our greatest strength. Bombs, murders, terror, rapes, these are small prices to pay for such an important strength.

    Moar violent, low IQ, welfare centric immigration please. Let’s get strong.

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  3. boyaj

    Glad to hear Maher gather common sense. Honestly, I’ve never been more ready for a political party that truly acts on common sense and logical principles. Throughout this election cycle and current political state, establishment Dems and GOPers are much more alike than they are different. This isn’t an endorsement of Maher, Liberals, Conservatives or Trump.. it’s me throwing my hands up and saying let’s start over. I will say that one of the things I enjoy about Trump is how both party’s dislike him; it makes him much like-able.

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  4. t.c.

    It’s amazing that Mahr understands the danger of Islam. Most liberals are intentionally unaware of the issue. He really drives opinion, I have a friend that just regurgitates Mahr’s opinions.

    I think what they are all missing here is the extent to which the genetics drives national success and culture. Most human behaviors and traits have a significant genetic component, usually around 50%. Intelligence, for example, is roughly 75% genetic:
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heritability_of_IQ

    We are not doing ourselves any long-term favors importing huge numbers of Muslim Somalis who have, on average, a 68 IQ. That is straight destruction of our country and you can say the same about much of the 3rd world. Muslim countries in particular have IQ issues because of the prevalence of cousin marriage in Islam, which suppresses intelligence and makes birth defects about 10x more likely- this makes for a huge drain on the welfare systems of nations with significant muslims populations.

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  5. Uglyflint

    Straight off with the panel Maher starts with Russia, impeachment and trump being illegitamate. Click, didn’t see mensch or Hayes.

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  6. peaches

    Muslim countries have IQ issues because of the lack of democracy in Arab nations. Not cousin marriage. I can show you 1000 charts showing that democracies that value education have higher IQs.

    We are not bombing Christian countries… or we would have Christian terrorists… like the IRA.

    We are bombing a people with a religion that has spread globally… and they identify with their religion first… and their countries second.

    For a Muslim… or a Jew… a fellow Muslim or Jew is more important to him than his fellow countryman. This is how it should be. God is more important than your flag or your constitution.

    For the 20 something Muslim growing up in third world countries whose relationship with the west began with exploitation over oil… supporting dictatorships over democratically elected governments… the west… or white people… are clearly the problem.

    The solution is getting moderate Muslims… aka western Muslims who don’t believe in terrrorism as a viable solution to their problems… to help bring about change.

    This also means helping destroy the dictatorships the west (Europe mostly UK and France) helped set up. Aka Assad…

    The biggest issue Arab leaders have with Israel is democracy. There is a democracy in the midst of their region… and they do not want people to see how that works.

    Studying Islam objectively as most of you have failed to do, you would realize the entire religion (like “your” Christianity nobody follows anymore) got hijacked pretty quickly. The Quran does not prescribe half of the things people in the middle east do. The Quran actually says Arabs are the most likely to corrupt the truth. 1400 years ago.

    I’ve read the Quran. Shit is impressive. Only one Quran. Mathematical codes present in the book that nobody can explain showing up in Arabia 1400 years ago. Codes nobody knew about until the 70s and 80s…. when American Muslims with computers started rethinking their religion.

    Just like Christians realized Catholicism was a scam once they learned to read Bibles in their own language after the Gutenberg press was invented. They stopped chasing Jews around and pelting them with stones for the fun of it on Easter… a pagan solar holiday you think has something to do with Jesus.

    Before people began ***reading*** in their ***own language*** everyone just listened in Latin… and went to church… and burned the heretics (infidels)

    EXACTLY how Muslims in the middle east no longer read their Qurans… they go to engineering school (to catch up with the west that thinks building things is the mark of civilization, as if I would actually have a better life just because I own a German car, American smartphone and a London flat), and all their religion comes from Saudi Wahabbist fundamentalists who live in the desert…. a nation we have conveniently left out of the travel ban… despite the fact that the overwhelming majority of terrorists come from Saudi Arabia…. Like Osama Bin Laden. You know… the guy who blew up the world trade center? the guy who had no religious training? the guy who was just some stupid and racist Arab accountant? who people like you think other Muslims respect and worship?

    Then people started reading. Before that you were all low IQ also. Shit was so bad in Europe you had to come here.

    Now you are ironically pushing away people who believe in the same God and are running away from the same shit? Unless of course you are of the evangelical ilk who thinks there are actually more than one God.

    People get told America was started by pilgrims looking for religious freedom. They fed me that bullshit in school all my life.

    I want to believe it. But the truth is this country was started by anglo saxon protestants who wanted to sell cancer causing tobacco to their friends at home… and they were so greedy they didnt want to pay taxes so they formed their own government.

    Thanks for making it to the bottom.

    Shabbat Shalom.

    Bill Maher is an atheist. I’d love to see him (or you) bash Christians as much as you guys love bashing Muslims and Jews. Yeah it’s kind of convenient you all pick on Muslims now and the Jews have gotten a break…

    but the west has a lifelong problem with Judaism and Islam for ONE reason alone…

    We do not believe in your three god nonsense…

    This is where it started. THousands of years ago.

    You say Jesus is God. You need to believe this to be a decent human. If you don’t you are going to hell. Jesus never said this. Paul did.

    Christianity was invented by schemers who wanted to take advantage of the gentiles who liked Jesus but didn’t want to stop eating pork. Period.

    We say God is God alone. Adonai echad in Hebrew.. La illaha illallah in Arabic. This is word for word in the Torah, and word for word in the Quran.

    Now you might consider yourself secular people… but know that Bannon is not. Know that this entire distrust of other Abrahamic religions is based on thousand year old religious feuds. Know that our cultures today are defined by what we believed yesterday.

    Our religions simply make more sense. “Christian” nations are all secular democracies thank God. Safe places for Jews and Muslims and whatever few actual Christians there are left to believe whatever the fuck they want to believe. There is nothing in the Quran supporting sharia law, or nation building… this is just what twisted people in power do to stay there.

    America can step up and help bring freedom to these places… or we can go the Bannon route and make this a Christian theocracy with our very own sharia law. I’ve never seen Jewish voters asking for a ban on bacon like you guys need to have for abortion or gay marriage. Let the faggots and baby killers do what they want.

    You listen to Jesus… like actually what he said… and not your rapist priests and commie popes… and you should be fine.

    Hypocrites.

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  7. peaches

    Judaism and Islam pose a threat that Hinduism and Buddhism do not. There are no Swedish converting to Hinduism.

    We understand God better than you. It would be a disaster if tons of Latino and Black Christians started getting educated, sitting down, reading Torahs and Qurans and finding out God is much much more than a nice Jewish guy he sent to talk about him. Finding out their are no religions, just idiots who want to control communities by separating people. Just like race and ethnicity.

    God forbid we all decide to feed the rich corporatists to the pigs and take control of our own countries.

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  8. purdy

    Exactly right Ugly. All about Russian agent Trump and no worries about the surveillance state that was reported on last week.

    And oh shock, Trump lies. With the implication left by Maher and ALL of his guests that this is unique in our politics. ‘Not since Hitler has there been so many lies!’ …and this after 16 fucking years of wars built on lies! Lies dutifully repeated by the media, including Maher. Only now do Maher and his idiot guests and audience discover the Reichstag.

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  9. purdy

    Peaches, you said “For a Muslim… or a Jew… a fellow Muslim or Jew is more important to him than his fellow countryman. This is how it should be. God is more important than your flag or your constitution.”

    Religion is a construct of MEN. When you worship a religion, you are worshiping men, not God.

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  10. peaches

    True. Nobody is saying they worship a religion. If you are attacking people because of their beliefs… and I am aware of their beliefs being in line with my beliefs… then I think it is my duty to protect them from you.

    So, the Torah is speaking to Israel… a nation… a nation of people who follow the rules… (not the zionist creation, which is a secular democracy… not God’s country as many would like to believe)

    therefore all the other people who follow the rules… in my personal opinion anyone who believes in God (Christians, Muslims and Jews) we have a greater connection than any constitution, skin color, language, etc could ever create.

    So no, we don’t worship religion. Part of our religion tells us to protect eachother from animals… people who worship other things… be them men… or stars… or little green pieces of paper like the majority of the folks here. In our society girls do porn for money. People cut their dicks off for fun. So yeah… to religious people… the west is just a fucking shitshow… you smoked too much “individualism” and now you’re homos and feminists are running rampant.

    And you are mad the Muslims still got enough balls to try and fix it. While I hate violence… and do not support middle eastern political regimes… or organized religion… I do support God… and God as far as my beliefs are concerned… doesn’t give a fuck about freedom. Freedom is a joke. An illusion.

    A good life requires restrictions from evil.

    The Torah and Quran to me are clearly divine revelations. Their origins are inexplainable. The shit they predict 100s even 1000s of years before the fact… inexplainable. So that influences my understanding of things.

    None of you can explain the Jewish prophets predicting Israel’s destruction and diaspora, the trials of the Jewish people, and the final redemption in 1948 … predicted 600 years before Christ… and none of you can explain the mathematical codes based on the number 19 hidden in the Quran… and still unheard of to most Muslims. Its basically proof there is a God. Google it.

    http://submission.org/miracle.html

    http://www.masjidtucson.org/quran/miracle/

    This life is a test.

    You can party all through life if you want. But you will wake up hungover for the exam on the last day of school.

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  11. sarcrilege

    Not to worry girls. The muslim invasion commenced. Radiacal Islamists are taking over Canada and then they come for the Muricans and Mexicans. Get ready to be converted or beheaded:
    http://angusreid.org/islamophobia-motion-103/
    https://tinyurl.com/kybfnfq

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  12. peaches

    Stop moderating my comments

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  13. BenCBrainard

    Peaches wants to be left to preach His own gospel without response from anyone. He is trying to start a following here. Leave him in peace.

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  14. BenCBrainard

    Peaches, name a non Christian civilization you now or in the past you would have prefered to spend your time on earth in.

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  15. peaches

    The United States was founded by deists. Freemasons. Not evangelicals who think believing Jesus died for your sins is the sole requirement for being a good person and or going to heaven.

    Look it up.

    Washington.

    Jefferson.

    Franklin.

    Thomas Paine;

    “I believe in one God, and no more; and I hope for happiness beyond this life.”

    “I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish church, by the Roman church, by the Greek church, by the Turkish church, by the Protestant church, nor by any church that I know of. My own mind is my own church.

    All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit.”

    “The opinions I have advanced … are the effect of the most clear and long-established conviction that the Bible and the Testament are impositions upon the world, that the fall of man, the account of Jesus Christ being the Son of God, and of his dying to appease the wrath of God, and of salvation, by that strange means, are all fabulous inventions, dishonorable to the wisdom and power of the Almighty; that the only true religion is Deism, by which I then meant, and mean now, the belief of one God, and an imitation of his moral character, or the practice of what are called moral virtues – and that it was upon this only (so far as religion is concerned) that I rested all my hopes of happiness hereafter. So say I now – and so help me God.”

    Then you go read the Quran… realize they are all deists… realize after the Crusades alternate mystical religious traditions began taking hold in Europe (freemasonry?)

    This is and never was a “Christian” nation. It was a nation founded in the principles that God gave man equal rights. The fact that you think this is a Christian notion is part of the problem.

    Christians did not invent God, and as long as your Christian nations were in fact officially “Christian” you behaved just like the Arabs do with their “Islamic” nations that have nothing to do with the central message of the Quran… Torah… Gospels

    Fear God. Remember him in everything you do. Take care of people less fortunate than you. Thats about it.

    The rest is shit you made up 2000 years ago to control peoples minds. Poor people love hearing they are gonna go to heaven, and its a great way to convince them to give you 10% of their earnings… throw in a free sip of wine in a society where only the rich knew the taste of the stuff…

    Watch Zeitgeist. I love democracy. I love human rights.

    Stop getting them confused with your “religion”

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  16. Dr. Fly

    We don’t moderate comments. Sometimes WordPress grabs them. I think it’s a passive aggressive IQ filter.

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  17. peaches

    And Spain during the Islamic Golden Age sounds like a great place. Christians Muslims and Jews living in relative peace. Universities. Hospitals. Guitars got invented.

    Compared to Christian Europe where entire villages were murdered based on rumors…

    No universities until after contact with the east.

    No hospitals until after contact with the east.

    No violins until after contact with the east.

    Enjoy your feminazis and transexuals… in your “Christian” nations.

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  18. peaches

    You guys can never prove me wrong.

    Ever.

    Its pathetic.

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  19. ironbird

    The real question. What do they have on little Bill? The honest assessment of the cult has to be cover for all the other hyperbolic globalist scum talking points. Treasonous scumbag.

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  20. peaches

    Zeitgeist on Netflix. Then show your reverend. Videotape it.

    Still no explanation for why my books make supernatural predictions and have supernatural mathematical phenomena present, and Christian books have all been proven to be fabrications.

    Coincidence I suppose.

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  21. moneybagz

    @peaches the scientific fact we are minute space dust particles bound together by the laws of physics makes your religious rant f*cking meaningless.

    Falling back on some diety takes away your responsibility to be a positive contributing member of the human race, period.

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  22. ironbird

    Peaches is just a simple horseshit spewing Commie. In Peaches perfect world he is a judge or a teacher for the brain dead masses. Informing them of everything important to being a fucking slave.

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  23. peaches

    That is fucking retarded. Clearly you are making the all too common western mistake. My religion is stupid so yours must be also.

    Sorry. Maybe God gave you a silly religion to test if you love him or your religions?

    1. I do not doubt that we are space dust. We are all dust.

    2. Believing in a creator actually makes me want to be a good person. The Torah tells us, do good things and good will come, do bad things and bad will come. The Gospels say the same thing. The Quran says the same thing.

    3. Believing that I am saved because a man who was God somehow died and this somehow frees the entire world from sins? that “takes away your responsibility to be a positive contributing member of the human race, period.”

    4. So my point is proven. The religious ideology you are saying makes people have no incentive to do good in this world is the Christian salvation theology. That you are already going to heaven simply because you believe Jesus died for your sins.

    In Judaism and Islam and plenty of other Christian denominations (not evangelicals or baptists though… that make up most of you guys) nobody knows if they are going to heaven or hell. You just have to pray and give away money and do good deeds and hope that makes up for all the bullshit you do. Because we are all assholes. No one deserves to go to heaven or hell… this is my belief.

    This is why I donate money I “should” be investing.
    This is why I don’t cheat on my girlfriend
    This is why I don’t steal
    This is why I don’t lie and murder people

    The natural world around you was not built for you to “win” at life by doing good deeds. Lions do not eat because they are nice. They chase down the weak baby animals and rip them apart. This is the animal world.

    This is who the atheist thinks he is. A monkey.

    We think we are divine creations, with the divine spark, created in the INTERNAL image of our creator.

    He just made us look like monkeys to fuck with us.

    And he gave the dirty Jews and Arabs better books than the Romans gave you just to see whether you actually care about God… or just Christendom… your ancestors. Tradition. Nation. Family. Bullshit.

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  24. peaches

    I am definitely informing the brain dead masses. You need to be a slave for God Ironbird. Or he will kill you.

    Or continue to make you a miserable grumpy little bitch.

    Try again. On your knees. Take-off begins by getting on your knees.

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  25. peaches

    the scientific fact we are minute space dust particles bound together by the laws of physics makes your religious rant f*cking meaningless.

    Not at all.

    Nothing I said has anything to do with the big bang or space dust.

    Sorry your reverend failed science class. I didnt.

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  26. peaches

    I tihnk its hilarious you guys think I am a slave. I used to be an atheist. I used to love money perversely. I needed every last dollar. I learned to trade stocks. I hoarded money.

    I was a slave to money. Now I’m not. You still are. Which is why you think a rich guy can run a country just because he has tons of money. Money is your god. You’ll kill your children for it. Thats why we have abortions. Thats why middle class people are not getting married and having kids.

    Because you’re all so fucking smart. You are going extinct. Mexicans will eat this country.

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  27. zeropointnow

    The earth was clearly seeded by ancient technologically advanced beings who have conquered faster than light travel, and humans are the culmination of their best genetic engineers. Our bodies are simply vessels for their race to experience an earth-friendly mortal coil, which we refer to as a “soul.”

    We are each an intergalactic tourist encumbered by the limits of the brain we’re dealt during this round, and we will pop out and repopulate a new one during the next round. All religions are based on real events used to guide us to this point, hence all the overlapping themes.

    Off to a funeral. Sunrise, sunset, etc.

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  28. sarcrilege

    @peaches:
    LOL. You are a piece of work, dude.
    (in a positive way)

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  29. t.c.

    Lol, Peaches you’re such a deluded commie. Intelligence is highly heritable (more or less 75%). The East Asian countries have no tradition of democracy until we forced it upon Japan and S Korea and the are the smartest large group in the world. When the third world populations come to the west their IQs remain in the dirt. We are importing a permanent underclass, which is a very bad idea. The violence and totaltarian nature of islam is not it’s only problem.

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  30. BenCBrainard

    Sorry, Peaches, the majority of people living in this country were Christian, at least up until recently. The people make up the nation. The nation was and still is predominantly Christian.

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  31. BenCBrainard

    Honest question here. How did Thomas Pain establish what the moral character of God is given his view on the Bible and New Testament.

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  32. heaterman

    Peaches I’m just going to comment under some of your statements. You can answer if you like, or not. You have some interesting ideas and I’d like to see where you are coming from.

    1. I do not doubt that we are space dust. We are all dust.

    This is truth. From dust our bodies are made and to dust they will return.

    2. Believing in a creator actually makes me want to be a good person. The Torah tells us, do good things and good will come, do bad things and bad will come. The Gospels say the same thing. The Quran says the same thing.

    But why do we do good things? Are we accountable to a creator?

    3. Believing that I am saved because a man who was God somehow died and this somehow frees the entire world from sins? that “takes away your responsibility to be a positive contributing member of the human race, period.”

    What religion claims our responsibility … is removed??
    Additionally…how else would one be saved? No one is capable of living in such a way they are worthy on their own merit. I think we have all proven that in our lives.

    4. So my point is proven. The religious ideology you are saying makes people have no incentive to do good in this world is the Christian salvation theology. That you are already going to heaven simply because you believe Jesus died for your sins.

    You are half right in saying there is no incentive, but missing the real reason to “do good”.
    Your statement about simple belief is not entirely correct. Even the forces of Lucifer “believe”, and shudder because of it.

    In Judaism and Islam and plenty of other Christian denominations (not evangelicals or baptists though… that make up most of you guys) nobody knows if they are going to heaven or hell. You just have to pray and give away money and do good deeds and hope that makes up for all the bullshit you do. Because we are all assholes. No one deserves to go to heaven or hell… this is my belief.

    I’ll agree there are many who preach the theology of giving so that you get. Osteen and that pinhead who asked his congregation for a $6MM jet come to mind immediately. They are doomed.
    I’ll modify your last statement a bit though. No one deserves to go to heaven, everyone deserves to go to hell. We all know that even in our most magnanimous moments of self sacrifice we still hold evil and perverse thoughts in out minds. Our motives are never 100% pure.

    This is why I donate money I “should” be investing.
    This is why I don’t cheat on my girlfriend
    This is why I don’t steal
    This is why I don’t lie and murder people

    The natural world around you was not built for you to “win” at life by doing good deeds. Lions do not eat because they are nice. They chase down the weak baby animals and rip them apart. This is the animal world.

    This is who the atheist thinks he is. A monkey.

    We think we are divine creations, with the divine spark, created in the INTERNAL image of our creator.

    We are physical manifestations of a Spiritual being. His handiwork. The crown of all things He made, and we spit in His face.

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  33. peaches

    *** But why do we do good things? Are we accountable to a creator?

    We (Abrahamists) do good things because the Torah/Gospel/Quran tells us too. We follow the rules. You try to be like Jesus… Jesus says to follow his father’s commandments… so you do those, or maybe you don’t. I don’t know. Those commandments are in the Torah… and they seem archaic but the real knowledge is in the deeper meaning behind the laws.

    Yes we are accountable to a creator… at least Jews Christians and Muslims believe that. But I am sorry. I know there are lots of different types of Christians. Unitarians are practically Muslims. Evangelicals however… it seems God is just an old man, who is very mad all the time… and Jesus came and because he lived like a human he felt suffering, and sacrificed for us… and somehow got God to be nice and forgive us our sins?

    This might not be what you believe but I have spoken with countless people, from gospel groups, to travelling monks, and countless of other people on forums who love telling me I am going to hell simply because I believe that Jesus was just a really smart and nice God fearing Jew. Not God. He literally said why do you ask me about what is good there is only one who is good and he is my father in heaven? Then he mentions that all of those who follow him are the sons of God in the beatitutdes. I’ve read your book. I’ve read the Quran. Gospels and Quran and Torah all say the same thing… then St. Paul comes from left field and makes up tons of stuff… because it seemed he was willing to throw the law out the window just because the gentiles couldnt give up eating bacon and sopressata and prosciutto.

    ***What religion claims our responsibility … is removed??

    Evangelicals. I talked to a girl who told me she is perfect and she is free from sin and she KNOWS she is going to heaven. The other three men with her nodded approvingly. This is also what is all over the evangelical channels on youtube. If you feed a million homeless and save ten million cancer babies… but you don’t think Jesus is the son of God… then you are going to hell… and they all conveniently refuse to answer me when I ask them if the Crusaders who burned synagogues full of praying women and children are in heaven?

    What do you think?

    Also the entire confession thing also. You sin. Confess. Sin. Confess. Sorry but you know it. Most Christians are cafeteria Christians who don’t really believe half the story. They don’t believe the virgin birth, walking on water, resurrection…. they just like the traditions, its what their family did, and this Jesus guy was decent… its nice to hear what he said on Sunday for an hour before I go back to my regular life centered around consumption and money. Now there are tons of asshole Jews and clearly tons of asshole Muslims.

    I just dont like hearing this “Christian nations are good everyone else is bad” bullshit coming from the mouths of people who are nothing like Jesus… like Milo the homosexual who champions Christianity whilst proving simply by existing that yeah… “Christian” nations ain’t that “Christian” cause we’re chock full of homos, prostitutes, drug addicts, etc

    ***Additionally…how else would one be saved? No one is capable of living in such a way they are worthy on their own merit. I think we have all proven that in our lives.

    God will save who he feels like saving. God makes a soup. atheists fart on the soup and when you or I say hey that is God’s soup they say “haha there is no God”

    You and I however, we cherish that soup but once in a while… because we are dust… we fuck up… and we fart in the soup also. But we always feel absolutely horrible about it right?

    You sin heaterman?

    Don’t you ask for forgiveness?

    Don’t you try and do good deeds?

    So at the end of the day. When the universe grows cold and the stars go out and the entire universe collapses back into the singularity it came from…

    everyone will have farted in the soup… we all fall short of the glory of God…

    but some of us will have won his mercy and forgiveness, and others will have incurred his wrath.

    I have no idea I am going to heaven. And I know I deserve to go to hell.

    But I’m 100% sure pulling my wallet out on Friday afternoon and giving every last dollar to the homeless… makes up for the rest.

    Just like karma. Try to be net positive.

    I’m Jewish. I can’t believe in sons of God heaterman… sorry

    Jesus gets asked what the most important commandment is… he quotes Deuteronomy 6. What Jews read every morning. Our lord is HaShem. HaShem is One.

    Sorry if it seems like the whole God is Three stuff gets me riled up. But its never mentioned in our book… and our book was Jesus book. Jesus was one of us.

    But last year while working with an Israeli fintech start up… making double what I made at my last job… with an office at the world trade center in New York fucking city…

    I read the Gospel of Matthew. I read 19:29 on a Wednesday. I quit my job creating debt for Americans that afternoon. The truth is the truth and it cannot be covered.

    When I hear republicans talk about Christianity all I think is Matthew 19:29.

    I don’t miss that paycheck at all. I get to wear a hoodie to work again and I get to work with awesome technology that is defining the future. I don’t have to try and confuse businessmen into fucking up their finances so we can make a killing.

    I’m a fucking lunatic. I’m a 28 year old dude living in 2017 who decided to stop drinking stop getting into fights, stop flipping MDMA for a quick buck, stop working in finance, stop cheating on his girlfriends, get married, none of this shit makes sense and everyone thinks I’m crazy.

    But thats the fucking point right heaterman? We’re gonna get mocked. And when I see Christians and Jews and Muslims mocking eachother its just ridiculus. Nowhere in our books does it tell us to start religions. They are all the same story. There is one God.

    This world is a joke. I found a treasure in a field and I sold everything I own to go buy that treasure. I suppose you have heard that parable as well.

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  34. peaches

    Ben..

    1. Thomas Paine is saying he believes in one God. You don’t need to believe everything Judaism and Christainity and Islam tell you to believe that there is one God.

    It sort of just makes sense. If I told you your house just appeared out of nowhere you would not believe me. But its easy to believe the entire universe just showed up?

    2. Thomas Paine is writing in 1700s. He is a deism. Deism showed up in England after the protestant reformation destroyed the Christian power structure in Europe created by the Catholic church. It is also surprisingly similar to the theology in the Quran… which is very simple… and rejects Jesus being a holy person.

    So Thomas Paine is living in a time when people are reforming religious ideas. It was a common belief and still is now among many agnostics that the Bible is just a book the Jews wrote based on their philosophy.

    Plato describes a prime mover… Hindus describe Brahmin.

    It seems you think you need to be Christian or Jewish to believe in God.

    Maybe he was a secret Muslim. Jefferson owned a Quran. Maybe he read it and liked how there are no practically no rules. Just feed poor people and pray a lot. The rest is shit people with big hats or beards make up.

    Look into it. Read. Learn.

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  35. peaches

    Ben.

    The majority of people were also white?

    So this is a white Christian nation.

    And you fucked up letting my dad in here legally?

    Just say it.

    The rest of the people in this country who are not white Christians are not going anywhere man. We arent fucking leaving. Period. We are just gonna fuck more of your women with our entirely larger members, and then we will all be brown and we will all eat taco bell and pizza ignorantly thinking that its American food.

    Deal with it.

    The constitution states there is no official religion and we get religious freedom. God is mentioned a lot by the founding fathers… but always in a deistic sense… that there is a God… but not the whole Christian story with salvation through blood and all that weird stuff.

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  36. peaches

    The earth was clearly seeded by ancient technologically advanced beings who have conquered faster than light travel, and humans are the culmination of their best genetic engineers. Our bodies are simply vessels for their race to experience an earth-friendly mortal coil, which we refer to as a “soul.”

    No… actually…

    The earth was clearly seeded by a ancient technologically advanced being who have conquered faster than light travel, and humans are the culmination of their best genetic engineers. Our bodies are simply vessels for their race to experience an earth-friendly mortal coil, which we refer to as a “soul.”

    Have you noticed the difference?

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  37. purdy

    Not exactly Zeropoint. No need for faster than light travel.

    Peaches’ advanced math in the Quran and such were brought by the far more advance people from our then neighboring planet Aster. They came here to escape the collision that smashed their home planet into the asteroid belt. They got together with the native apes (kinda like those French guys did more recently.) They’re the missing link.

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  38. peaches

    We will see who is right and who is wrong at the end of the show. I have not seen any planets with solar systems arranged with orbits like ours. Our orbits in the inner planets conform with platonic solids. Look at the kiss of Venus.

    All that math you think you can explain without even opening the book… the book doesn’t mention aliens. It mentions the God of the Jews. The God of the Jews sent the Muslims a book. It says the Jews will return to Israel in the Quran. It also says the Arabs are the most likely to screw everything up. Bam. Surprised?

    1400 years ago.

    What earth like planet is there where the tiny moon hundreds of thousands of miles away and enormous sun millions of miles away appear to us to be the same size?

    There are no aliens. It makes more sense to me that that is the made up shit. Aliens. We are the supreme creation. We are the supreme intelligence on Earth. All those fucking aliens and no proof?

    Why do aliens write us books and pretend to be God? and not just say “yo we’re aliens”

    If anything… the aliens are the made up part. Made up for the gullible lemmings. Life without God is life full of fear. Fear of poverty. Fear of “powerful” people. Fear of aliens. Lots of bullshit. There is no physical being(s) in the sky. Just the universe. Just the totality of existence that created us, that gives birth to all life.

    “‘See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god beside me; I kill and I make alive; I wound and I heal; and there is none that can deliver out of my hand.”

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  39. Dr. Fly

    Flat earthers need to be stopped.

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  40. traderconfessions
    traderconfessions

    This is what happens when people don’t listen to Wavy Gravy’s warning about the brown acid. Peaches be trippin’ .. Lordie Lordie.

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  41. peaches

    *Lawdy Lawdy

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  42. BenCBrainard

    Peaches, you make many assumptions about the people you are speaking to on here. Shows that you are extremely biased, disrespectful, and hold great prejudice. Your comments also show how intolerant you are and quite vile and disgusting comments also. You also failed to answer the question about how Thomas Paine determined the character of God. The reason you didn’t answer is because you don’t know. Just like I don’t know how you determine the moral character of God. As far as I can tell you’ve just made it up in your head.

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  43. peaches

    I have a book where his character is described.

    We cant prove he exists, let alone what he is like.

    Basically we assume hes perfect, all knowing, all powerful.

    Faith isnt based on what you know. You have to take a leap… so we believe in Bibles and Qurans and other scriptures and we get a picture of the same entity.

    Built the world. Knows everything. Knows what you dont know. Knows everything about you. Punishes. Rewards.

    This is how religion works. You just believe it.

    Someone can believe in God without believing all the tenets of one of the Abrahamic faiths.

    By 1700s that is how enlightenment deists determined the character of God.

    Try reading the age of reason and Paine can explain himself for you. I’m not a Paine biographer.

    Sorry you think I’m an asshole.

    Look at the title of the article. Look at everything Ironbird ever says…

    I’m the prejudiced asshole?

    What the fuck happened to common sense

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  44. chuck bennett

    Peaches is dropping some truth

    He is at his best when in between his mediation

    Regards

    Chuck Bennett

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  45. chuck bennett

    Truth be told.

    I own Quran

    Regards

    Chuck Bennett

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  46. purdy

    Leaps of faith have been proven to be dangerous when the leaper is not centered and coming from a place of calm and love.

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  47. Peaches

    Dude… 99% of the time I’m a chill dude. But when we got people insulting billions of people… generalizing…

    sacrilege thinks all Jews are evil

    half of you think all Muslims are evil

    ironbird is a racist sexist

    most of you know 0 Jews or Muslims, you just hop around the internet reading crazy racist shit from people who spew ideas you like to hear, you don’t think ritically

    foreigners all have lower IQs?

    who makes the fucking IQ tests dumbass?

    how did my immigrant father come from shining shoes at 12 years old for 25 cents a pop to making 6 figures? now my old man is swimming in a pool in a house bigger than most of your parents…

    how did I get a 3.8 GPA with a double major? how did I double my money on the stock market 2 years in a row before ever taking a single college course? how did I end up working for 2 different start ups by 27?

    why are their still white anglo saxon protestants in missisipi working at mcdonalds if you are so naturally smart… because of your “Christian” values????

    DEMOCRACY requires educated citizens… dictatorships don’t. Dictatorships like Assad, Putin, Trump, Saudis… they like their population stupid. They like their population tribalized and militant and intolerant of others…

    why should I speak respectfully to you fucking imbeciles?

    You guys want me out of my own fucking country… because I don’t agree with you? because I’m latino? because I’m Jewish I can’t be trusted? I must be lying all the time? I must be a communist?

    Fuck you.

    Calm and love…

    Where the fuck is the calm and love in this country?

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  48. ferd

    So you excuse your own reactionary generalizations because a handful of other individuals sweep you up in theirs? Sincerely, you should get some professional help. In the interim, Mr. Comey, watch-list this one.

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