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Dead Giveaway The 35 Page Dossier Was A Hoax? The British Don’t Use “Confidential,” They use “Official”

britsThe identity of the British intelligence officer responsible for preparing and delivering the now infamous 35 page hoax has been revealed as Christopher Steele, courtesy of the Wall St. Journal. If you want to dig into his profile, click here.

As people piece together this rapidly unfolding quagmire – which will be in the history books, it’s important to address as many facets as possible in order to avoid perpetuating #FakeNews. As Oliver Stone said, more or less, the MSM is biased – and alternative news has the real deal, so let’s discuss.

A friend pointed this out earlier:

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It has come out that the dossier and supporting documentation were fabricated by an anonymous 4Chan user, who sent the hoax to a RINO named Rick Wilson back in the Fall of last year.  Rick Wilson is (in)famous for his description of Trump supporters as “single white males who masturbate to anime”.  The 4Chan user wanted to embarrass Rick Wilson, who apparently tried to shop the fabrication to MSM without success (cuz they couldn’t “source” it, given that the entire documentation is a fake).

The alleged origination of a British agent as the source can be considered a “trap for the unwary,” which would easily demonstrate the documentation was an obvious forgery because the UK does not use the “Confidential” designation, although US intelligence agencies do.  In the US, classified information is designated as “Confidential”, “Secret” and “Top Secret” (along with a whole host of other designations for more highly sensitive information such as nuclear weapons designs).  The British use “Official”, “Secret” and “Top Secret”.   Anyone who checked on the story would instantly recognize this defect if they knew (or discovered) anything about British classification schemes, but if someone didn’t check they’d simply assume the British uses the same classification designations as the US.

[let’s take a look]

US Designations:

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UK Designations

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HOAX Dossier:

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Apparently, Wilson also sent the falsified documentation to the CIA and they may, or may not have, bought it. The CIA subsequently “leaked” it to various news agencies, and both CNN and Buzz Feed bought the CIA leak. The CIA also admitted to briefing both Obama & Trump on the false documentation, but now claim they only cited it as an example of “disinformation” that’s floating around out there.  Seemingly, whomever at the CIA leaked this story and its documentation to CNN and Buzz Feed didn’t identify it as “disinformation”.  For extra brownie points McCain claims he received a classified briefing on the bed wetting episode in December and asked FBI’s head Comey to investigate!  It should be obvious McCain would not have done so had the CIA had told him the information was known to be fake.

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Now, it’s possible that Steele – an ex-UK intelligence officer in private practice, simply used the US designation for the convenience of US intel (or to mask the origination) – BUT, we’re also talking about the same guy who bought the #GoldenShower story that several journalists and news outlets wouldn’t touch.

So, by the transitive properties of “the guy who bought the 4chan hoax,” I think we can assume Steele would have defaulted to a career-long habit of using the UK designation on this 35 page dossier he cobbled together.

On the other side of the pond, what are we left to assume? Let’s ignore the classification thing for a moment. For one, the CIA could have easily looked into Michael Cohen’s travel records (the Trump lawyer the dossier accuses of going to Prague to meet with Russians) and ruled that out – immediately discrediting the document. Second, Trump is apparently a bit of a germaphobe. I don’t blame him, people are filthy. Shouldn’t the CIA know something that obvious about such a well known figure?

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We are left to conclude:

The CIA figured out this was a hoax and just let McCain, CNN, and Buzzfeed make McAss. That’s an interesting conversation, if so.

The CIA didn’t know – as in, nobody who handled this document knew or checked into why a doc from a Brit would have US classification markings, or the Prague visit, or Golden Showers. A frightening thought.

Steele didn’t prepare the report.

What say you?

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24 comments

  1. joshua

    Dude, I’m pretty sure everyone knows it’s fake. Like comet ping pong rape tunnels fake. Wouldn’t waste much time on this. It may have been hilarious, but 0 people I know, republican, liberal, my dog… nobody believed this.

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  2. zeropointnow

    John McCain didn’t think it was fake when he passed it to James Comey last month.

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  3. john_galt

    Frog did it

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  4. joshua

    I’m sure he did. It’s all a big game, we all know he doesn’t like Donald. Just like nobody (in power) believed that Obama birther shit. It doesn’t matter if it’s real, if you can get your base to rally on it.

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  5. joshua

    I’m sure he did was referring to old John mcCain.

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  6. zeropointnow

    Fess up Frog.

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  7. Dr. Fly

    Don’t waste time on this? Excuse me, but this isn’t an allegation against a fucking pizza shop. This is something that was used by corrupt media to hurt and possibly take down the President elect, with malice.

    No, we will BTFO Buzzfeed and CNN until there’s nothing left but Wolf Blitzer’s beard.

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  8. Here comes scotty
    Here comes scotty

    I think you mean confidential, not classified. The US uses confidential, the UK uses official. Good article.

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  9. zeropointnow

    Shit, great catch Scotty – thanks. Updated.

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  10. joshua

    Don’t waste time because people know it’s bullshit. Plenty of info has been spread to “hurt” people. Even the headers for these articles said they were unsubstantiated. Be pissed at the 4chan Trump fans who supposedly made it all up. They were trying to troll the intelligence community, and ended up turning this in to a massive joke. I’m with you guys on this, it’s fake. It will not matter at all in a week.

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  11. ironbird

    joshua will not stop talking of pizza. How many times a day do you get lost in the… pizza?

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  12. joshua

    But since you mentioned people trying to take down and hurt Trump. A guy literally went to this pizza place with a gun to “investigate” a completely fake story.

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  13. ironbird

    Whatever. You have a “rape tunnel” thing going on that is plain weird. Probably really love that pizza too.

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  14. joshua

    I talk about pizza so much, because I love pizza. Kind of like you talk about gays in every comment, you know.

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  15. joyous__ending

    You folks actually think Hillary, her operatives, and Obama just said: “So Trump is into this? Gee, let’s just move on and talk about a higher minimum wage, free college and white privilege”.

    Of course not, that’s why they dropped the pussy tape because they knew it was real and they thought it would secure the win. If it was real, it would of been on BuzzFeed or anyone willing to post it back in Sep-Oct.

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  16. joshua

    Agree… sometimes the simplest answer is right. It’s sort of like an Alex Jones situation to me. All these conspiracies, sandy hook, 911 lizard people etc. If half of what he believed is true, he’d be dead. Very simple. If the dems believed this dumb ass story, it would’ve been out there already. Just the media putting out clickbait for very stupid people to read. The emphasis on “unsubstantiated” was clue one.

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  17. Urine2Lemons

    Trump is not a germaphobe. He grabs women by the crotch and IMHO sniffs his fingers.
    Everybody knows the dirtiest place on a woman is next to her butthole.

    It’s okay to laugh if no one is around.

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  18. Pearlsbeforeswine
    Pearlsbeforeswine

    you should rally ask your lady to shower more

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  19. Lolololol

    Zeropointnow, check out this post, you might find it interesting:
    http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/01/the-deep-state-versus-donald-trump-new-smears-and-a-ukrainian-connection.html#more

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  20. longview

    Doubt it’s true — but will be interesting to see if came from 4chan or not. I’ll take the reporting of NYT an WaPo on this over the wisdom of amateur internet sleuths. Yes, I am just that much of a clueless, cucked libtard sheeple. Baa, baa.

    Pizzagate was not about a pizza shop. That’s disingenuous.

    Trump has huge conflicts of interest. Nobody on the right seems to care that much. Why is that? Won’t ever turn over his tax returns. Oh well.

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  21. Dr. Fly

    Flagged for fake news Longview. You are wholly full of shit.

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  22. ITALIAN STALLION

    Trump rips his opponents new assholes. First Jeb, then Christie, Rubio, Cruz, Hillarity and now the MSM.

    Question asked Obama at his first press conference.
    “What enamors you the most about your position?”

    Questions never asked Obama at any of his press conferences
    “Why did you allow the illegal sales of guns to Mexico go untraced?”
    “Why did you tell the IRS to selectively harass individuals on your enemy’s list?”
    “Why did you allow the Libyan Ambassador to die and then lie to cover it up?”
    “Why did you allow the debt to increase 9T?”
    “Why did you compromise the security of American citizens by allowing illegal criminals to enter our country?”

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  23. probucks

    @LongView –

    How can you justify blind faith in NYT & WaPo publications after this whole election season process? Even before being exposed in the Pedesta emails, I started to question how they’ve been able to miserably fail at honest, accurate, and balanced reporting. It smelled shitty… and turns out it was full of shit.

    Journalist of the year awards certainly goes out to (1)Wikileaks, (2)hackers, (3)independent investigatory journalist and (4)crowdsourced due-digligence of internet sleuths who aptly parsed through the the mound of data – democratizing facts and backing up claims with evidence.

    Hillary has/had more conflicts of interest’s, even with Russia(uranium one?), when compared to Trump. This is why she was correctly labeled “Shillery”, exposed as a crook, and the vote for her corporate sponsored neocon agenda was dismantled.

    You don’t care about tax returns or accurate financial records. You’re just being a cuck.

    If your concerns were genuine you’d recognize neither candidate passes that benchmark since the Clinton Foundation’s pass-through-vehical-for-Saudi-Arabia was never audited by an independent/reputable auditor and managed to shuffle billions of dollars worth of government bribes.

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  24. ironbird

    Longview is dirty tamponed. Time to clean up and get right with the coming shower. All will be clean under the reign of the Lord Man God. Get used to it.

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