As readers of this site know, the #Pizzagate story is back in play after a strange man with a gun entered Comet Ping Pong and allegedly fired a round into the ground. Within hours of the incident, embers of discussion around the internet erupted into a forest fire after Mike Flynn Jr. and Jake Tapper got into a DM argument over Flynn’s #Pizzagate tweet.
Tapper, as you may know, was revealed by Wikileaks to be a Democrat shill – fielding questions from the DNC to sabotage Trump / Cruz in upcoming interviews. Coincidentally, of the 1,684 pizza restaurants in DC, Comet Ping Pong (#pizzagate ground zero) is the Tapper family’s favorite. (as an aside; Jennifer worked for this AmeriCorps)
In response to the Tapper / Flynn spat, Morning Joe went apeshit, calling Flynn Jr.’s tweets “Absolutely Abhorrent”
.@JoeNBC on Gen. Flynn’s son’s job in transition team despite his controversial tweets: That’s absolutely abhorrent https://t.co/XyIudwFLQ1
— Morning Joe (@Morning_Joe) December 6, 2016
Hours later, Donald Trump fired Flynn Jr. from his transition team, drawing a hard line in the sand over #pizzagate. The message is clear; Trump will not entertain unproven conspiracy theories.
The bigger story here is that the MSM reaction to #pizzagate is to castrate the messenger instead of critically examining the evidence. When they do attempt to scratch at the surface, it’s utterly incorrect – stating things like “Conspiracy theorists believe Hillary Clinton was running a child trafficking ring out of the back of a pizza restaurant.” Wrong, totally wrong.
Flynn Jr.’s tweets were merely pointing out two things – namely:
- There are a lot of strange coincidences in the #Pizzagate controversy, as revealed by the #PodestaEmails
- Until this story is disproven, the issue isn’t going to go away
That was not an endorsement, or a rekindling, or a call to action. It was simply an observation after the topic resurfaced. People want to know why the Podestas and Comet Pizza are fans of pedo and cannibal art. Or why they’re joking about selling babies. Or why they use the phrase #chickenlover – a term used in the gay community to describe a man who likes underage boys. Or why Podesta remained friends with convicted pedo Dennis Hastert, or engaged in late night #spiritcooking sessions with Marina Abramović, or had strange logos created that were apparently too lascivious to forward. There’s not a lot of ambiguity here – these data points are out there. It’s human nature to identify the members of the village that you shouldn’t leave your kids with, and people understandably want answers when our leaders are seemingly steeped in “abhorrent” behavior. Calling all of this “Fake News” implies that there is a perfectly reasonable explanation, which is all people want.
Instead, the re-emergence of #Pizzagate was the spark needed to kick the war on #FAKENEWS into overdrive. Don’t fall for it.
The entire “Fake News” narrative is an attempt to control what you know about the world. Thanks to the internet, anyone with a keyboard can share their opinion. When the Drudge Report broke the Monica Lewinsky scandal in 1998, it was the opening salvo in the assault on the mainstream media’s control over information. With the passage of time, alternative media outlets have grown in size and readership, and distrust of the MSM is at all time highs.
Do you blame people for questioning the news? Over the course of this election alone, we learned that much of the media is completely cucked. Those who aren’t end up dead – often from mysterious circumstances.
The battle over hearts and minds is won by treating people like adults, and this war on #FAKENEWS is entirely condescending. The premise is that you are too stupid to critically analyze information – that we’re all sheep, and we need real news outlets to shepherd us away from dangerous and misguided opinions.
Sorry, that’s not how human beings work. Much like free market capitalism, if someone (a “fake news” outlet, for example) consistently puts out a bad product, people will stop consuming that product. They will be ridiculed and shunned for following charlatans. The beauty is that it’s self-regulating, whereas trying to control choice has never worked, and using #pizzagate and “Russian hackers” as an excuse to silence alternate opinions is going to backfire, bigly.
Inform your decisions with facts and evidence, scrutinize anything that doesn’t sit well, and decide for yourself. Thanks to the internet you have virtually unfettered access to the raw data, even if you have to pay for it. You can actually read all the Wikileaks yourself, in context, and use the Mattlock lobe of your animal brain to come to your own conclusions. Whatever you do, don’t believe the vomitous hype from conglomerate news organizations with a vested interest in controlling what you think.
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When you stop listening to Alex Jones, a man who thinks the Sandy Hook shootings were a government setup, you can lecture others on critical thinking. Until then you are a cruckpot lemming.
I don’t @trader. Furthermore, precisely two of my 148 posts on iBC contain a reference to Alex Jones or Infowars, one of which was yesterday’s.
Kindly fuck off: https://ibankcoin.com/zeropointnow/files/2016/12/searches.png
I used to have so much respect for this site before it devolved into the worst of political dialogue.
The only one of you actually providing any god damn value is OA. Thank him for driving traffic and the poor shmucks that happen to click on drivel like this.
OA’s prowess is undeniable, but that’s not what I’m here for. Here’s a an idea AF; Don’t click on things you disagree with. Much like free market capitalism, if my posts are drivel people won’t read them. YOU can be part of that change.
Some people need safe places.
@Trader
Almost 100% of your ‘arguments’ are strawman. You rarely, if ever, argue the detail, but say dumb things like “oh, stop listening to Alex Jones.”
How do you know what Zero does in his spare time? This is why you’re an idiot.
The truth is not an option until we say yes…holy horseshit. Assholes.
Honestly, if someone knows something about this and they don’t break it open, well thats weak assed. Nowthen shall everyone please continue in earnest.
#pizzagate has some undeniable elements. The unified opposition by the press is absolutely creepy…
At a minimum, it harms no one by informing people of what is going on. This is a highly relevant subject. I am bemused by so called liberal rejection of even discussing it.
@AFlow90 so you are smart enough to tag along with OA. you must be good. so why bother with the disrespectful post?
Crazy theory here. #Pizzagate was put together to attract attention and investigation ability from something else. I watched a couple of the videos, and they have a tone of crazy, but just watching the video and reading the transcript is entirely too coherent for a conspiracy website (compare to chemtrails or those “one weird trick” websites). I don’t want to imagine that there is something worse than #Pizzagate out there, but the other conclusion is that a conspiracy website is correct.
Ha Ha! Pizzagate is just that. I’m letting it go now. But fuck was it brilliantly done, had me fooled. All to ensure Hilly didn’t get elected. Google M McCann but select time frame and then images: you will not see the mugs of the Podestas’s, but you will see plenty others. Lapse to recent and then you get the fucking Podestas!
Don’t write it off Soup and Stockhawk – there are a *lot* of regular people paying attention to this, some of whom I’m sure have talent in audio/visual production. This thing grew organically. I watched it unfold in real time, as redditors with active and diverse accounts that were *years* old (i.e. definitely not shills) were uncovering facts and posting their findings. This whole thing has been a crowdsourced phenomenon.
4chan is a bit more “wild west” since you can’t see user history, but remember – it’s also been the source of many anonymous postings which later turned out to have massive merit – such as the FBI anon thread. http://ibankcoin.com/zeropointnow/2016/10/29/4chan-rabbit-hole-prime-the-original-fbi-anons-4chan-thread/
The Wikileaks themselves are DKIM verified and unaltered. The comet ping pong instagram postings were from the last several years. I can’t imagine anyone fabricating that many pedo-related pinpoints just to let internet users create their own evidence corkboard.
Like any issue, there are gradients of crazy. Just based on the connections between those involved, the available evidence from reliable sources – including published articles (like the one on Tony Podesta’s creepy art), are enough to warrant heightened scrutiny.
As Fly and others have said, shutting this down as FAKE NEWS instead of addressing the many facets is raising suspicion all by itself.
Gents..enjoy your pizzagate fantasies if that turns you on.