Just like that – #Pizzagate is back. It all started two days ago when a man walked into Comet Pizza and according to police, fired an assault rifle at the floor. Reports allege that the gunman was investigating the restaurant for it’s central role in the much talked about #pizzagate scandal, which was ignited by the DKIM verified Wikileaked Podesta Emails.
Reactions around the internet have varied from outrage to disbelief, with the MSM quick to condemn the incident along with #pizzagate, and the Reddit-4chan Autist alliance madly working to piece things together and prove that the whole event was fabricated.
(I dragged this little timestamped prediction out of the rabbit hole).
Of all the opinions and information flying in the immediate aftermath – one voice stood out from the rest; the son of Trump’s incoming National Security Advisor Mike Flynn.
Until #Pizzagate proven to be false, it'll remain a story. The left seems to forget #PodestaEmails and the many "coincidences" tied to it. https://t.co/8HA9y30Yfp
— Michael G Flynn?? (@mflynnJR) December 5, 2016
With #Pizzagate decidedly back out of the shadows, outspoken conservative Breitbart journalist Milo Yiannopoulos immediately pounced on the opportunity to give a presentation to the world…
…however, 30 minutes before Milo’s speech he made this odd statement:
“… I do have one announcement to make, which is that sadly, when I announced I was going to be speaking about Pizzagate this evening, I got a number of phone calls with Washington area codes saying ‘not yet, stop it,’ so we’re going to be talking about a few other things instead.”
Bizarre.
Also of note, many have noted that Alex Jones has recently had an abrupt change in tone towards #pizzagate starting about a week before the comet pizza incident. Early yesterday, Jones put out a video suggesting that #pizzagate is a diversion and people should stop looking into the story. This was kind of, very, totally out of character for the king of Conspiracy theories. In fact, something like #pizzagate heating up are precisely what Alex Jones has built a career on.
Last thing (for now), Infowars reporter and Army Veteran Joe Biggs – known for his over the top investigative journalism and hard hitting #pizzagate youtube videos – was just fired for unknown reasons, and Infowars has deleted some or all of Biggs’ #pizza related content from their video archive. People have no clue what he did, as neither @Rambobiggs nor Infowars has commented on specifics. Biggs has made several tweets and gab.ai posts which he’s deleted in the last few hours:
Biggs then asked (in another deleted tweet):
So we’ve got a strange 4chan post warning that a false flag involving James Alefantis (owner of Comet Pizza) was about to occur, the day before a guy walks in 2 hours till open and allegedly fires a round into the floor. The incident sets the internet ablaze again and the MSM shifts into maximum FAKE NEWS WITCH HUNT MODE. The controversy draws the son of a very public figure into the fray – and just as we’re about to hear from outspoken and very articulate Milo Yiannopoulos on the issue, he cancels. The same day, Alex Jones of Infowars puts out a video encouraging people to stop investigating #pizzagate – and Infowars fires resident #pizzagate expert Joe Biggs (@rambobiggs) and removes his content.
There are a few theories floating around right now; Either Alex Jones and Milo have been compromised and Joe Biggs has been thrown under the bus, or Trump’s team told everyone to knock it off until after the inauguration and Biggs didn’t want to play along. Another possibility is that Alex Jones has been looking to pivot away from #pizzagate for a week or so, and Milo was called off so as not to embarrass Breitbart. Whatever the truth, something is afoot.
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If it walks like a duck….
lots of info:
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate
Or they already knew it was a flying piece of bullshit. It’s all fun and games until people get hurt. So now they have to backtrack away from it, before they take heat and before they have to admit it’s not real. Save face. ….. This really is simple, their job is to make money. If half of what they believed is true, they’d be dead. It really is as simple as that.
Josh is 100% correct. Also, there is potential legal jeopardy for those recklessly spreading the pizzagate conspiracy. My guess Jones and the other crazies got calls from lawyers after a potential disaster was avoided. Bet the pizza joint’s owner has lawyers working on it right now. That will be an interesting deposition.
There is nothing happening here. Fake news.
If I were a conspiracy theorist I’d have a way more likely one. These Alex Jones types would be the real “false flags” to keep seemingly intelligent people from focusing on the actual fucked up shit going on. He gets to go on about sandy hook being some sort of false flag (love to see him tell that to a parent). Meanwhile he gets to sell you “wake up America” coffe (real thing) brain extend supplements, fucking overpriced water filters and freeze dried food. SWHC must have loved this guy.
I expect IBC to now adhere to the Michael G Flynn standard and prove that nothing is happening here. Otherwise we readers will assume that indeed there is something happening here.
So comforting to know that the country’s National Security Advisor-elect’s son is such a critical thinker. It reflects so well on his father’s character.
When I visit here now, I feel like David Dewalt. Nobody on here probably knows who that is, because it has to do with stocks.
Can I get some ChartArt? Rick Ross? I didn’t even come here on Thanksgiving because I was convinced there would not be my favorite post of the whole year.
Here feels the same way visiting my favorite grandfather, who was once full of spit and vinegar about the market and introduced me to John Deere stock certificates, spending his last days convinced that his neighbor broke into his house every night while he was asleep to rob him of his precious jello. He stayed alive long enough to buy four cupboards’ worth of them…
For the love of god, why do people wate their time on this nonsense?
WHY JAMES ALAFENTIS IS A CHILD PORNOGRAPHER PLEASE UNDERSTAND THIS:
Are Alafensis’s Instagram images Child Pornography? YES: Level 4: POSING: Deliberately posed pictures of children fully clothed, partially clothed or naked (where the amount, context and organisation suggests sexual interest). Source https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COPINE_scale
IT DOES NOT MATTER THAT THE CHILDREN ARE CLOTHED
The context of the conversation makes them images soliciting the abuse of children and BY LEGAL DEFINITION Child Pornography
This has been under our nose for a month, we MUST now see CLEARLY
John White…maybe the sickos are the ones who interpret innocent images as sexually suggestive.. I see clearly that you are delusional.
traderconfessions. You cannot refute the hard legal fact I have just supplied. I am not delusional. You are in denial. This is not surprising. The normal mind does not easily comprehend the deviousness of the sort of sick minds that sexualise children for their own gratification. So I don’t take your negative attitude personally. None the less , the Alafantis Instagram images are REAL, Alafantis uploaded them and commented on them, they are FACTS, and they were hidden in a sub-section until net activists got hold of them. They are the core evidence of Pizzagate and they ARE Level 4 CHILD PORNOGRAPHY on the COPINE scale, as can easily be verified. Therefore, I suggest you refrain from showing up your unwillingness to look at facts by making a dismissive comment again: You are only showing yourself up. Peace, and in the hope you may become wiser.
I just looked at a couple of the Instagram images. Only a pervert or a crazy fuck would interpret a picture of a dad holding a child as porn. America is laughing at you knuckleheads. Even Alex Jones knows the gag has gone too far. But if looking at ping pong table turns you on then enjoy.
Trader, you see normal things in this thread? https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1463959
r/pizza. – Nice pic guys.
Only thing abnormal is that you believe this shit. The connections cited are absurd. John Podesta is a pedophile because he knows Dennis Hastert? He’s a cannibal because he has a political satire piece of art on his wall? And then you crazies want to tie this shit to HRC? But you and the others were silent about Trump boasting about wanting to bang his daughter and dating teenagers? Pathetic.
This could be real or it could be confirmation bias.
There could be code involving pizza, but it could be different code than you think.
There are a few possibilities @lol: it’s true, it’s not true, or it could be something different altogether as you suggested. Whatever the case, a suspicious body of evidence exists and should be investigated.
Pizzagate is real….if you think.otherwise it’s cause you never reviewed the evidence. Even if you threw the comet pizza shit out……you still have John Podesta going to spirit cookings…..the guys house is full of pedophile art and cannibal art. Then how about Anthony Weiner sending dick pics to 15 year Olds with his 5 year old son in the backround? How about Podesta email about getting 3 toddlers in his hot tub for a fun time? How about Hillary and Podesta favorite witch bitch who cooks spirits and does mock cannibal shit in public? If you saw alefantis Twitter posts and thought that shit is kosher….then burn in hell. You act like the history books aren’t full of stories of social and political elite being massive pedopgiles…like thats impossible to be the case still today?
Let’s try this out… I’m having some friends over for a BBQ and one wants to bring their young kids. So I email another friend.. looks like a fun time with 3 kids in the hot tub..I’m being sarcastic. If you pluck that email out of context it looks creepy but it isn’t. Your timei s better spent on Bigfoot and the Grassy Knoll.
So it WAS Bigfoot on the Grassy Knoll!! I thought so especially since a lot of people are saying that Ted Cruz’ dad had an unnatural relationship with Big Foot in the late 50s. I mean I don’t know if that’s true, but a lot of people are saying it.
I hope that goes viral.
I am guessing that someone from the FBI or Trump’s team said “stop, now…we are working on this and don’t want you idiots to screw it up!” Hence, Milo saying a bunch of phone numbers from the DC area called him.
THIS IS ALL FAKE PEOPLE. There is no coverage in mainstream media on a pedophile ring BECAUSE THERE IS NOTHING TO COVER. If there were ANY TRUTH TO THIS THE PRESS WOULD BE ALLLLL OVER IT. IT’S FAKE AND YOU PEOPLE ARE BEING LIED TO BY PEOPLE WHO WANT TO CAPITALIZE ON YOUR IGNORANCE AND DESIRE FOR THE TRUTH. YOUR DESIRE FOR THE TRUTH IS IMPORTANT AND DO NOT LET THAT DIE AND DO NOT LET THESE PEOPLE RUN YOU. THEY ARE FULL OF SHIT. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO GO WITH THEM.
No one called this dude. He’s probably in danger of being sued.
What’s better a line of coke or a good conspiracy theory?
Fly just loves getting his right wing wacko subs going on these conspiracies. I’d bet every penny he doesn’t believe any of this bs. But it’s way more fun to get the Trumpsters going lol.
Keep betting against me. Fly always wins.
Notice how Trump is President and your bitch is on her way towards a cold cell?
In fairness to the author, I did not write this people. This post has gone viral on Facebook.
Let’s make up accusations all day long, about people who disagree with us on something. When anyone says “None of that is true”, then we say: “Until it’s proven to be false, it’ll remain a story. “
People have the right to discuss whatever they want.
The VigilantCitizen.com website pulled its Pizzagate feature from the site.
Trump Fires Adviser’s Son From Transition for Spreading Fake News
“WASHINGTON — President-elect Donald J. Trump on Tuesday fired one of his transition team’s staff members, Michael G. Flynn, the son of Mr. Trump’s choice for national security adviser, for using Twitter to spread a fake news story about Hillary Clinton that led to an armed confrontation in a pizza restaurant in Washington.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/06/us/politics/michael-flynn-son-trump.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=a-lede-package-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0
Well, this here is something Trump has done that I agree with.
This all must be stopped. Fuck free speech. Talk about a conspiracy theory. Obey.
Well, Trump himself decided that the son of one of his adviser’s shouldn’t be spreading unfounded rumors. And he is correct.
How would you like government officials or their advisers to start spreading unfounded rumors about Trump?
You and I can talk about anything we want. Fine. Free speech. But government officials or their advisers shouldn’t spread baseless made up horror stories about people on the other political side.
I am banned from commenting on Fly’s blog. So maybe someone else can link Fly to the NYT article I linked to, above. Fly is still calling pizza gate a real thing. Perhaps Fly doesn’t know yet that Trump himself has just admitted that pizza gate is fake news.
Ironically, this move by Trump makes the conspiracy all the more conspiratorial.
WEINER SEX TEXTING A CHILD IS NOT FAKE! THAT IS CONFIRMED! WEINERS LAPTOP WITH PEDOPHILIA FILES IS NOT FAKE THAT IS CONFIRMED! INFOWARS COMPROMISED!
DEMAND PROOF OF LIFE FOR JULIAN ASSANGE!
GOOGLE HOLLYWOOD PEDOPHILE RING COREY FELDMAN! GOOGLE UK PEDOPHILE RING JIMMY SAVILE! PIZZAGATE IS REAL AND WORLD WIDE!
IGNORE ALL THAT SAY PIZZAGATE IS FAKE! RESEARCH THE TRUTH!
What can be better than conspiracy cruckpots turning on each other? Now the Liar-In-Chief is bitch-slappin’ the crazies who supported him. Mini-me Flynn has been tossed to the curb. Alex Jones, on advice of counsel, is ditching the charade, as are other loudmouths who don’t want to spend their money defending lawsuits against them. These brave souls like bullshit but they like their cash more. Long live Pizzagate! Or not. You’ve been played like suckers.
Apparently Biggs was fired for not wanting to shut up about the pedo scandal that Jones, Milo, AND Drumpf do NOT want to pursue. Same for Flynn’s son, kicked from the transition team, because after all Drumpf does NOT want to drain the swamp and does NOT want to ‘hurt’ Hillary. Besides, he might even be found to have dabbled in a little child molestation himself !! (recall Jeffrey Epstein)
“Pizzagate is real….if you think.otherwise it’s cause you never reviewed the evidence. Even if you threw the comet pizza shit out……you still have John Podesta going to spirit cookings…..the guys house is full of pedophile art and cannibal art. Then how about Anthony Weiner sending dick pics to 15 year Olds with his 5 year old son in the backround? How about Podesta email about getting 3 toddlers in his hot tub for a fun time? How about Hillary and Podesta favorite witch bitch who cooks spirits and does mock cannibal shit in public? If you saw alefantis Twitter posts and thought that shit is kosher….then burn in hell. You act like the history books aren’t full of stories of social and political elite being massive pedopgiles…like thats impossible to be the case still today?”
You’re right, for the most part I never reviewed the evidence (in depth). If this is the best case you can make, it’s not convincing. I came across many of these things looking at totally unrelated topics. If I kept looking maybe I would have connected the dots, or at least seen enough to convince me there was a connection.
But confirmation bias looks exactly like evidence in your mind because you have reviewed it. As usual, when there’s more than one explanation, people assume the one that makes a pattern, especially if that pattern is confirmed by a suggestion of others. Humans are very good at identifying patterns, even when they aren’t there. Seeing a face in a cloud or in rocks, especially if someone points it out and asks if you see it.
Most art is weird, especially the gothic styled artists and the spirit cooking lady is absolutely a nutcase. I don’t dispute that. But there is only very vague (proven) connections to podestas that I’m aware of, and nothing to a pizza place and zero to Hillary unless you think anyone who knows someone who once received email from a brother about visiting some freakshow means that person is in collusion. Trump once met with Obama who went to a church with a reverend who said very radical things, therefore Trump must be in collusion with Jeremiah Wright who said “G-d Damn America” and Bill Ayers who bombed the pentagon? The standard doesn’t work.
Put the shoe on the other foot and see how it sounds. Guilt by association is a leftist tactic. It’s stupid when the left pretends that Trump is secretly in cahoots with the KKK because they endorsed him (and he disavowed their support), or pretend he’s a racist because they’re looking for patterns to confirm their case. And it’s stupid when they pretend Obama is a horrible because George Soros gave him money and he knew Bill Ayers who hates America. Even Bill Clinton may have participated in flag burning and attended an anti-american rally in his college days, but if he wanted to bring down america he did a bad job of it… Or people are not their past and they’re not who they associate with.
You wouldn’t want people looking into the associations of everyone who you ever knew who had received communications from someone talking about associating with someone.
Podestas brother invited him via email. How many facebook e-vites or emails have you gotten to something dumb and totally ignored or declined it? I have a friend that has a strange sense of humor and thinks it’s funny to suggest going to something weird or doing something weird. Doesn’t mean either of us participate. Doesn’t mean he went, doesn’t mean that his brother even knew what he was inviting him to. It’s possible, but don’t make the assumption just because it fits the pattern you want to see. He likes cooking and art so if his brother saw something in town why wouldn’t that seem like something. And what does it have to do with PizzaGate? Just because there’s some freakshow event?
Anthony Weiner is obviously who everyone knows he is, an out of control, reckless freakshow. That has nothing to do with a pizza place as far as I’m aware.
Now, again, I’m not saying this stuff is definitely fake, but it looks to me like confirmation bias. Every weird thing that ever happened related to Jeff Epstein or John Podesta or Anthony Weiner is automatically all connected to PizzaGate? Based upon someone not wanting hair on their pizza and liking pizza with almonds, or some email where it appears they’re either on something or talking in code? Based upon bizarre things that occur to different people with a similar political ideology (an ideology shared by nearly half the country)?
Maybe Breitbart knew about it as his tweet way back when and something was there. Or maybe he had the same bias. The problem is, you can’t ask him. Maybe you’ll say that’s “evidence”, and now he was killed to cover it up. Or maybe he was just trolling and using the left’s tactics of character attacks against them and didn’t believe a thing.
I’m not saying that these alternate explanations are necessarily all right, there may be several other alternate explanation, I’m saying as long as one exists, you can’t make conclusions, because your mind is literally looking for patterns (even when they’re not there)
Of course it could all be true, but that would essentially require that either Trump is also implicated, or Jeff Epstein is involved AND puts people in power in compromising situations and takes pictures after putting something in their drink or after they willingly partake.
You can always play the “what would have to be true if” game about anything. The earth could be flat IF the flight times were a total lie and flights from Australia to Chilie and Chilie to India or China didn’t exist. Or if you’ve never been to China, maybe that’s a lie too. If satellites were rotating around like a clock rather than around the earth and the sun was too and the earth was shooting upward creating gravity and NASA is lying and scientists are also lying or fooled, and many other things that prevnt hundreds of thousands of people implicated in it from coming forward… or the earth could be hollow and the flat earth could be a cover up to discredit hollow earth because we have less ability to falsify the hollow earth hypothesis.
I’m not putting pizzagate on the same level as flat earth, but I’m trying to show you how easy it is to convince yourself of something. There are people who believe in flat earth and hollow earth and the moon landing was fake and the CIA took out JFK and paid Oswald to take out Connolly so they could frame him, or that TESLA technology allows min control through invisible frequencies because there is some project shooting waves into the ionosphere. There’s always enough to recognize a pattern if you look closely enough .
Look at the McMartin preschool case which is more comparable to pizzagate than any of the radical conspiracy theories. Unless that’s somehow linked and the highest levels of government is involved to falsify evidence without being caught it’s probably a similar situation of confirmation bias and the power of suggestion.
You require fantastic evidence for a claim like this without an alternative explanation. If Breitbart actually thought it was true and it was, perhaps he didn’t come forward because there wasn’t evidence substantial enough.
What’s the actual use in this? It makes everyone look bad including those making the accusations… so get some real evidence and make a case, or stop it. Lobby your congressman to demand investigation if it’s that important to you.
I’m not talking about you zeropointnow, you have reason to provide information and you’re not reporting that this stuff is 100% true or just trying to start things, and obviously you hit a topic that a lot of people wanted to read.
It’s fine to be skeptical of the information you’re told from any source, particularly the mainstream media which has a history of, but how about some healthy skepticism. we all have biases and blindnesses that influence the way that we operate and filter information. Maybe I’m the one with bias because I don’t want this to be real.Not because of political reasons but as a human. Maybe I underestimate how messed up in the head a large group of power hungry people can be. But wouldn’t you think someone would have come forward and there would be more police reported cases of kidnapping in the same area or something? You can’t look at around the world. Of course if they were super careful they would have, but again, you have to find evidence beyond all doubt, not try to find things that fit the pattern when there are alternative explanations.
The US Military has online “sock puppets” posing as real people to spread pro US Government propaganda. And you can be sure that anyone trying to dissuade your minds from the mounting evidence of pizza gate is very likely one of these many government agents. This entire “Russian Hacking” bullshit on the news is a direct response to pizza gate. It’s just a diversion. That’s the fake news, right there. Look up CoIntelPro or the Centcom contract. The US government is deliberately protecting pedophiles because many of them ARE the pedophiles. And if you’re one of these agents and reading this… I know you have sworn to follow a chain of command. But look at yourself in the mirror and ask yourself, ” are innocent children really being raped and murdered and used to blackmail top government officials? Why am I unwittingly protecting them? Why am I part of this machine? Did I really sign up for this shit?” Search your conscience and do the right thing.
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