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Drilling Deeper in the Dow vs. S&P Golden Crosses

After further analysis, I’ve decided that the results of the last post, Dow Jones Golden Cross and the S&P 500 Has Not Crossed – Lackluster Year Ahead?, are not robust. I believe the results are a function of randomness (part and parcel of a small sample size) and the way I structured the test.

I was still intrigued though, and so I changed the test a bit. The new test trades the S&P 500 anytime that the Dow Jones completes a Golden Cross, as long as the S&P’s 50 day moving average is less than its 200 day moving average (just like the last test). Here is what I changed: Rather than holding the trade for X number of days, the S&P position is sold whenever the Dow Jones completes a Death Cross. Basically this setup is trading the S&P 500 rather than the Dow Jones, using the Dow’s GC signals, with the exception that we are buying the S&P when it has not yet completed a Golden Cross. Anyone confused yet?

All the results below do not account for commissions or slippage. Data used goes back to 1960 for both indices.

Using this method yielded these results for $SPX:

  • Compound Annual Return = 1.60%
  • Average number of days held per trade = 200.57
  • Average trade profit or loss = 9.64%
  • Win % = 42.86%
  • 14 trades
  • Sharpe = 0.26

These results are significantly better than the results generated when NOT using the $DJI Death Cross as an exit signal.

Let’s compare the above results to the Dow Jones Golden Cross results (simply trading the $DJI based on the GC buy signal and selling it on the Death Cross):

  • Compound Annual Return = 4.72%
  • Average number of days held per trade = 216.42
  • Average trade profit or loss = 8.36%
  • Win % = 55.26%
  • 38 trades
  • Sharpe = 0.31

And finally, let’s look at the S&P 500 Golden Cross traded with $SPX and selling on the Death Cross:

  • Compound Annual Return = 6.21%
  • Average number of days held per trade = 324.58
  • Average trade profit or loss = 14.73%
  • Win % = 80.77%
  • 26 trades
  • Sharpe = 0.41

The bottom line is that you don’t want to trade $SPX using $DJI Golden Cross signals. Furthermore, if you are into long-term trendfollowing, you probably want to ignore a $DJI GC and wait for a $SPX GC. At this time, I cannot determine any conclusive evidence why the $DJI crossing before the $SPX is bad. It still seems like it should be, though 😉

Thanks to the two or so readers who have followed me down this rabbit hole. I can tell by traffic that this series has not been very popular. I’ll promise to move on to more exciting things!

 

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11 comments

  1. Will

    Nice insights, Wood!

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  2. Lurker

    I’m sure that if the trades yielded anything worthwhile, you’d notice a lot more traffic. It’s odd that the Dow GC would yield such pathetic results. By the same token, maybe the SPX saw gains prior to the Dow GC, stymieing any hope for it being a predictor of positive results. Regardless, I’ll continue lurking around these posts waiting for your ROC indications.

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  3. Green Machine

    Wood,
    I enjoyed this series. Your stats analysis keep me intrigued as I look for patterns as well (though my backtesting is nowhere near your levels!).

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  4. Bozo on a bus

    Reminds me of Edison, searching for the best material for lamp filaments: I’ve learned a great deal; I’ve discovered 10000 things that don’t work.

    Thanks for the hard work and insights. I would consider this study as progress being made.

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  5. Yogi & Boo Boo

    One thought on the Dow 30, although it’s just anecdotal and I haven’t researched it. Dow Jones has a bad habit of removing companies after they have moved down substantially, or adding new ones after they have peaked. Recent examples of “bad adds”: $MSFT and $CSCO.

    With only 30 stocks, the actual practice of adds and deletes may have a bigger impact than in the $SPX.

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  6. Beano

    Mr. Wood,

    appreciate all the work you do; don’t always respond, but always read.

    beano

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  7. Keith Shepard

    I thought it was an interesting study and have been following it via RSS feed. As I’ve posted before, though, I’m more of a “slope of the moving average” than “cross over of moving averages” type of a person.

    I don’t put much into either the Golden Cross or Death Cross, but I respect each event as many institutional traders set their long term algos to them.

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  8. Dave in Philly

    Hey Wood, still doing the high tight flag screen? CIE looks to be a qualifier?

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    • Woodshedder

      Dave, I’ve been meaning to start running it again every night now that the market is firmly trending up. I’ll do it tonight. Thanks!

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