ATR Stretch Candidates 12-15-10

Here are the results from the Scan:

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HMIN
GERN
TLB
ABMD
PTRY
MCOX
LGF
PTIE

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MNKD
VMC
GXDX
PZG
RRR
OYOG
SMBL
DVAX
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BONUS!!!

After much thought and ridiculous maths, my opinion is that ATR is inferior to Historical Volatility.

Please watch this video where I explain why

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12 Responses to ATR Stretch Candidates 12-15-10

pistilstamen says:

Interesting findings regarding ATR. I only use it to determine position sizing (not for long/short trade ideas), but the inconsistency in data between providers is quite alarming. While how I apply ATR has not caused me many problems, I may consider redesigning my position sizing metrics to use historical volatility instead. Nice work.

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Spyder_Crusher says:

That’s basically what I’m working on, replacing ATR with HV.

If you only trade off of one data feed, there probably won’t be a problem because you will always be consistent. But the data difference is as you said alarming. The same problem is experienced with an exponential moving average, but the degree of error is much smaller as to be more trivial (but there nonetheless)

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brian says:

Hi. I wounder if you got an email adress?
I would like to ask u some question regarding your “thoughs on Bpop& Volatility”, which u mentioned in on of your screen cast

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stinkystank says:

I just got through the first video that speaks of the inferiority of the ATR calculation. You had stated that this was most likely due to there being more data available to one charting package versus the other. I noticed that you had both TC and SF set to a lookback of 14, Would it be that their calculations are fubared instead of it being data availability? That is indeed odd…

now on to the second video :)

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stinkystank says:

have to wonder if this strategy would fare better when taken with the trend. ie. only take shorts when you have stacked descending MAs ( 200 > 50 > 20) and ascending MAs on the long side (20 > 50 > 200). or perhaps some other trend qualifier…

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Spyder_Crusher says:

the trend qualification is built in the algorithm bc it states the price must be 2*atr above or below a selected MA. In this case I used 21.

That’s also why I tried to heavily disclaim this strategy bc it picks tops and bottoms, it was more for intellectual satisfaction, thought there were insights gleaned (esp with respect to volatility grouping).

Strategies that picks tops and bottoms are typically very difficult (both in implementation and on the gut). I prefer strength and trend following bec there is a more logical way to program those things.

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