iBankCoin
The first hit is always on the house.
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BEST THING TO DO? PANIC HERE

FML.

Listen, the reason I posted that video yesterday is to discuss movement this week that would draw in both sides of the trade.

I said last Thursday night that the stock needed to close last week quietly to keep both longs and shorts engaged into the weekend. Check.

I said the stock “would rip to $24, 24.50, 25 range on Monday early, then fade sharply into mid week.” CHECK.

Stop and think why that detail was/is at all important and therein lies the answers to all your questions. It was so you late longs would shit yourself out of this trade for me.

The only thing I missed on this idea at all was how far it would pull back into weakness mid week. It’s trading fifty cents away from that price I called out. I’m sure in some troll-fuck way that makes this a bad call/trade/idea/whatever.

Chart looks as it should. Quiet today was the next best case scenario.

Moving forward, I will be charging babysitting rates.

The only thing that concerns me at all is the Angel of Death jinx that hit me on this last week. I won’t elaborate on this, but I am giving offerings to the Stock Gods for their grace on this one.

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139 comments

  1. JohnnyO

    LOL. ” shit yourself out of this trade for me”

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  2. Lcky11DeepNeep

    Thks OA for clarifying sometimes we miss the little things being said

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  3. tonka

    I usually get screwed when I start trying to analyze intra-day action, but so far today is a thing of beauty. Shorts got a dream fill on the open if they took it.

    Babysitting fees can pay for the crayons needed for people to draw trendlines that aren’t so black and white.

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  4. Shaboi

    Angel of Death? That sounds bad. I’m closing my position.

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    • Quality Control Inferno
      Quality Control Inferno

      I asked you how much and you never replied. Stock Gods are none too pleased.

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    • Quality Control Inferno
      Quality Control Inferno

      I’m sorry Shaboi, that wasn’t directed at you.

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      • Option Addict

        Superstitious to a fault. This literally scared the shit out of me. Had to get a new chair.

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        • Quality Control Inferno
          Quality Control Inferno

          Lol didn’t you trash one of your chairs out one time a couple years ago? We’ve been on the same side of some epic trades, lest you forget. PCLN, NFLX, X, just to name a few from a couple years back. I was mostly following your lead on those like I am on this one. I hope this allays your fears somewhat. We only got on opposite sides in 2015 and early 2016 for like 6 months when all I was doing was shorting SPX.

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        • Quality Control Inferno
          Quality Control Inferno

          Before I even knew you existed I as trading TWTR long into that epic post ipo melt up. Blind squirrel, broken clock, etc. 🙂

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    • Option Addict

      Wonderful. I think you fit the “late buyer” discussed.

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  5. ThomasJefferson

    I aim for humility here, and to only post trades or insights that I think have some value, but my gut was for lower prices today (at this point I know that’s easy to say). I don’t do sentiment very well so I try to listen quietly most of the time on such matters. But here is what I saw that gave me pause on higher prices today:

    1. Your son’s teacher asking him to TEXT YOU IN CLASS if he should buy. That’s not the swing low.
    2. People seemed to buying yesterday without fear of losing money.
    3. No trolls.

    I think a lot of those symptoms are burned off with a gap lower. Watching pre-market gave me a headache. The number of times I “refresh my screen while stopped at red lights pre-market” is usually an indicator that fear is in place. And I probably set a personal record on that. Costanza-Yolos at $21.90

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  6. notthesec

    http://m.imgur.com/cf82JdS

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    • tonka

      If I had a nickel for ever time that was posted on Stocktwits, I’d push Snap to all time highs so we could all just be done with it.

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  7. purdy

    Why am I craving Hershey Kisses?

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  8. dragun

    People .. seriously let the trade evolve. Just because there’s a pull back here doesn’t mean the trade is busted. If this action in unnerving to you, then perhaps find another hobby or line of work. It’s no wonder OA doesn’t want to comment on price target, roll up levels etc. if everyone is harassing him during these trades. Don’t get me wrong. I’ll probably get smoked on my weeklies here, and it won’t be fun, but that’s how this game is played. If were too easy then everyone would sit at home in their boxer shorts trading.

    // end rant

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    • iguessitsallin

      Yea my weeklies are pretty f’ed. But I am following OA till next month.

      On the inside, reference “This is Fine” dog.

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  9. iguessitsallin

    Whats your babysitting rate? $8.44/hr?

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  10. tweek

    haha epic

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  11. Beechoo

    haha. In OA we trust.

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  12. bountyhunter1

    People thinking your madam Cleo or something 🙂

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  13. Pip53

    Is it just me or is SNAP forming an Inverted head and shoulders with measured move back to its highs? pardon me if this has already been pointed out.

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    • illmighty

      I’m with you on that…a little melt up to the close could get real interesting for manana. Maybe that gap up in the morn that Jeff talked about just gets delayed by a day or 2…

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    • dschnei6

      That’s exactly what I see.

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    • hattery

      My “batman- illuminati confirmed– indicator” went off yesterday

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  14. Shaboi

    I’ll tell you what, I’m either going to be more rich or less rich on April 21st. Can’t fucking wait to find out.

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  15. Fathom5

    All good OA, booked 517% on CMG today.

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  16. Lcky11DeepNeep

    i remember her she went to prison for scaming use to be on those one 800 commericals at night

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  17. vandamme

    SHLD reload soon

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  18. AFlow90

    Fully out of SHLD today. What a fucking week for that one. Booked 813%.

    *disclosure: everything below this line is a joke and shouldn’t be taken seriously*

    Soooo….. SNAP sweeping the leg?

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  19. One-Lot

    My weeklies are toast (guess that’s why you manage position size). Bought more Aprils on the dip this morning – belief in the whole trade means I won’t be pissed off in April if I bailed out instead of reloading.

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  20. Bottom_Feeder

    I new this babysitting post was coming today after the gap down. Kinda surprised you bothered. Readers have to rule their own emotions eventually. You did spell it out very clearly. Remarkable really.

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    • no_logic

      +1….if paying attention, he told us exactly what to do (roll weeklies on Monday’s pop)…the numerics are just minor details; pattern has been spot on…

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  21. purdy

    Bought more April calls on TWTR

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  22. marc

    $OA….opinion on $WBS here for a trade

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    • Option Addict

      Love the broadening action in banks. Been loading up myself.

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    • ThomasJefferson

      I’m actually short $WBS. It’s an epic profile below to $40, and this is the last drip of profile left defending these prices.

      But I have meaningfully less confidence than when I initiated.

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  23. stocksnblondes

    Still cant get on board with this as a pure “sentiment” trade. I dont think longs or shorts will make money on this one until that first earnings report is released. May swing a couple of bucks each way before then depending on how the broader market is doing, but thats about it. People learned their lesson on TWTR and wont be running this one to the moon without some fundamental news first (ie an earnings report with news on user growth, monetization efforts, etc.).

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  24. Solomon Bigglesworth III
    Solomon Bigglesworth III

    Classic OA post! Sage advice as always. Sentiment curve on hourly looks just ideal. Time to sit on clicking finger and get a sandwich.

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  25. RJ

    The title of this post is pure awesomeness. So perfect for the situation!

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  26. Krusty

    And there it is: green. So glad I bought more yesterday and today.

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    • doubleplus

      Lol – “No, he’s doing it the wsb way” What a shitshow.

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    • Sergeant Smiles

      WSB is such a guilty pleasure. Did anyone tell them they used a multiple gold medal Olympic swimmer as the basis for their chart?

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  27. dragun

    From what I am reading on the boards and the twits .. I have feeling this will rip OAs price target to the upside to shreds. Too much bear dancing and panic. So he may be off a couple of days and a buck or two, but think how many more bears loaded up today and will load up into the close thinking they’re missing the short trade here. This action will only make it more painful once this baby breaks out.

    I was just wishing I could have rolled up the weeklies. The intent was to use profits from the weeklies, its just a drag that options don’t trade pre-market, or that the pre-market follow through didn’t happen. Could have had nice exit on weeklies yesterday and then rolled up the proceeds.

    sit in the tall grass and wait for now.

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  28. rwpage

    I can’t believe how accurate you were on this, down to the dollar (by 3pm EDT).

    …I’m disabling my account balance next week.

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  29. dragun

    BOOM BOOM BOOM

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  30. tonka

    Hey would you look at that. Early double top…quiet creep up…higher lows…Every now and then I can read a chart. Don’t ask me about tomorrow.

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  31. ThomasJefferson

    Looking at this one stupid fucking chart and losing hair over it is crazy. I have a ton of names ripping I didn’t even see- $WBMD, $KBR, $RSO, $DDD, $CHK, hell even $TGT is moving – alas, I guess it looks like $ONCE gave back a bit.

    I’m going back to the grid. Do what you’re going to do, $SNAP.

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  32. Beechoo

    Cramer just blessed $SNAP on cnbc and Doug Kass bought $TWTR today. This can’t be good. lol

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  33. husaria

    Jeff, you are really superstitious?

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    • Option Addict

      In this sport, I avoid crowd thinking. Yet here I am, developing a crowd thought.

      I am in that sense.

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      • husaria

        Hmm…when superstition takes hold for long enough time, it becomes tradition. I see it in my cultural background.

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      • cancel19

        OA is the Master and I for one just a grasshopper in his realm.

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  34. dragun

    I’ll burn some chicken bones if we get a 10% tomorrow .. lol

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  35. matt_bear

    the “good” bears got the short at 22.90 yesterday.

    this is a great spot to close today. we’re up from the day before, and chillen just under their entry point and can easily jump over it.

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  36. thegametheorist

    BOX looks like it’s in anxiety. Just looked at the chart since IPO and it stood out right away. thoughts anyone?

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    • tonka

      Sitting on the trendline and finding support off prior resistance…what’s not to like?

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      • stockslueth

        Let’s say launchpad instead of trendline. IE. BOX is sitting on the launchpad.

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  37. vandamme

    Who’s in GOOS? This guy.

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  38. moosh

    OA, do you think more pain for $NTNX?

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  39. Quality Control Inferno
    Quality Control Inferno

    OA, any opinion on bitcoin here? I was looking to curse it soon 😉

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    • Option Addict

      I rode the $400 to $1050. There’s another blogger on here that talks bitcoin often. He might.

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      • Angel of Death

        Yeah, I’m looking for a re-entry. I was going to buy Ethereum like a month ago and just got busy and work and it rocketed. Never got an entry. FML. They are trying to pull a bitcoin circa 2013 with ethereum.

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      • Angel of Death

        I don’t know how interested you are in the other crypto-currencies, but I’m thinking they just start running them all up to insane values, one after the other. As soon as Ethereum crashes and burns people will be looking for the next one. These may all go the way of tulips, but until then I’m very interested in them.

        I don’t even know what’s #3 in terms of usage, but I’m keeping an eye out. If coinbase starts allowing people to buy other crypto currencies then I am definitely going to throw some cash at whatever they include in their platform. To me, this is how you get public participation in a crypto currency.

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  40. mooby

    5 trades so far on SNAP. I’m at the point now where it’s all house money from here on out.

    So I ask the kids what do the other elementary kids use at school?
    ……Instagram and SNAP.
    Do they use FB?
    …..NO!
    Do they use TWTR?
    ……NO!

    This has nothing to do with the price of rice in China but it does say that FB and TWTR have to contend with SNAP whether they like it or not.

    FB should offer $40 right now using stock swap and cash.

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    • doubleplus

      I asked two millennials about this in class yesterday. Neither one of them use Snapchat, but they both used to have accounts. All of their friends use it and it’s still incredibly popular. Neither one of them knew Snap went public.

      Not that I truly give a shit. Only in $SNAP for a trade.

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  41. MaxProphet

    Where is the Porsche license plate guy?

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    • cancel19

      I already got my Porsche from the business I sold. Now I’m looking to keep it and get me my Lamborghini!

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    • matt_bear

      i presume you’re talking about me? i’m here.

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  42. greenlander

    Going to buy MRO, COG, CHK and APA soon

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    • Heckler

      I’ve been swinging that tomahawk with SPA too

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      • Heckler

        APA *

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        • greenlander

          Totally crap entries today but what the hell….lots of range left. APA was my first energy entry couple weeks ago. Hoping for more pullback today/ tomorrow to get more long.

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  43. mrcharlie

    Thanks to OA and Fly for continuously providing stellar insight and guile to “pleebs” like me haha…mahalo! Promising an IBC script purchase once some extra $ is available.

    -MC

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  44. dlrago8

    Need OA’s brilliance to take affect here now again or some higher up intervention. SNAP Apr 13’s not looking good for me. Picked up some Apr 28’s on this dip. Go baby go!

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    • no_logic

      In same boat re Apr 13’s and might have been too aggressive, but remember, two weeks is a looooong time for a stock like this to make some major moves…

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  45. Z

    Got some near money BIDU calls right here for a quick trade and proud to say I cashed in this morning with LULU and did the CMG call thing yesterday for hundreds of percents but missed out on the thousand percent if carried overnight.

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  46. Solid

    Not panicing here but clearly seems the scenarious not playing out the way it has been predicted… so a bit uneasy, I must say

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    • Option Addict

      Had you bought the low, it is working fine. Had you bought the high, we’re all waiting for you to shit your pants and sell.

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      • Solid

        I bought some at the low, some in 22-23s next week ones…

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      • matt_bear

        Despite all the “carnage” my core snap position is still up 300% and my weekly is 147%. Granted i was up 600% and 1000% but that’s the risk with holding…..if the targets play out over the next couple weeks then the returns will make Monday’s high blush.

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      • JohnnyO

        LMAO! Again with the “shit your pants and sell”

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    • doubleplus

      Sell it on the 22 break.

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    • moonshot

      Was the reference to Ed Grimley intentional?

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  47. hattery


    lanforce
    December 10, 2013 at 3:42 pm

    As many of you know, I follow a LOT of “advisory” services. These include the “name brand” (Cramer et all, Options Profit etc.,) as well as the boutique (you know, the ones that claim 99% wins – but only if you buy options four months out). Happily and thankfully, the number of services is dwindling as the subscriptions expire.

    But I’d like to repeat and emphasize what I said last night in AH:

    NO single person or entity that I’m involved with even had this on their radar (other than the normal IPO hype).

    They missed it completely – It wasn’t chartable, it wasn’t follow the herd, it wasn’t something they even contemplated.

    It amazes me how quickly we forget these megawins in here – a quick lookback in the brief time I’ve been here includes spot-on calls with BIDU, YOKU, AAPL (another one where the doubters screamed as they got rich), APOL, VMW, FSLR (round 1) etc.,

    Think about this for a moment – what other trader on the planet could come up with TWO option plays that yielded well over 1,000 percent returns. Perhaps we should rename the strategy from win big/lose small to win mega/lose a little.

    The best thanks we can give Jeff on TWTR is to NOT BLOW the exit. Personally, I overbought on this so that on the pop, I had surplus options to pay for the trade. Everything I have on now is pure profit – no emotional selling here.

    I’m completely focused on making this one the perfect trade – I planned my entry down to the nickle, was pleasantly surprised Monday morning when it popped, then stuck to my trade plan.

    We won’t get these every day. Appreciate and maximize it when we do – properly traded, it makes up for a lot of sins.

    Jeff – perhaps the greatest testimony I can give you is not that you have convinced me how good this service is – you’ve convinced my wife, who for all things dollar related, is the PIC (Pilot in Command) in this household.

    Many thanks, and congratulations.”
    -Lanforce

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    • Option Addict

      WOW. Man, I remember this.

      #LongLiveLanforce

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      • JEFF HOLLAWAY

        Jeff curious if you like NTNX here? Thank you in advance.

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      • hattery

        Did he say 2 1000% returns?

        SNAP Long Mar24 21 calls $0.17 $ 2.15 Sold half, monster win +1165% $ 23 1164.71% 3/23/17 1:55 pm
        SNAP Long Mar24 21 calls $0.17 $ 1.75 Closed the remainder of this weeks calls, great win! $ 23 929.41% 3/24/17 2:58 pm

        🙂

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  48. heisenberg

    Sell off seemed to be triggered by Sell Rating from Stifel. Assholes, they might derail our plan for a day, but we’ll get them tomorrow.

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  49. gatorsun

    unfortunately Jeff, you weren’t an egomaniac in 2013…you changed in 2016-2017. Start printing out all the 100% option blowouts you gave your group monthly. And learn some humility.

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    • rwpage

      Crazy idea, but you can stop following him and not participate in this trade if you don’t like his temperament. Personally, I’ll take cocky and snarky with 1000% returns over polite and useless any day.

      …Sounds like you might be butt hurt at fitting the description in this post.

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    • Shaboi

      Shots. Fired.

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    • Option Addict

      Egomaniac? How so? What offended you?

      I have losses like anyone else. You see how it all adds up in the end, and that’s why you spent as much time with me as you did.

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    • cwinsor

      gator, you might want to revist the AH video explanations of the equity curve

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  50. cascadia

    Long $CF. Went long $RYI and $FCX yesterday against my better judgement. Glad I did.

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  51. Shaboi

    OA, how do you gauge the rate at which sentiment changes? Obviously you crushed the bottom of this trade, but if this is a good secondary entry point, how do you determine which expiry’s to purchase?

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