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YOU TWILIO BRO?

I’m obsessed with this $TWLO idea. The last time I obsessed over an IPO was $BABA. Remember that? I said that it’s IPO would follow the $TWTR IPO. Again, this was BEFORE it ran from $80 to $120.

Then there’s $TWTR. My highest conviction trade idea ever. I laid out the bullish case for taking a major stake in this just a couple weeks after IPO, on November 18th to be specific.

Here’s how that played out…

TWTRIPO

Here’s a look at $BABA, and the similarities to the $TWTR IPO. I made that call in mid October, a week or so in front of a 50% increase in less than a month:

BABAIPO
Then there’s $TWLO. I said a little over a month ago that this stock might be the next $TWTR IPO. How does it compare thus far?

TWLOIPO
$TWLO had a good first week. The others didn’t. It traded flat for a few weeks like the others did, then made a solid week and a half run, like the others did.

After that run, all three stocks paused/pulled back for three days. The fourth day, they started the melt-up run. Big volume on the rallies, weak volume on the declines.

Guess I’ll know tomorrow.

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94 comments

  1. Dnice

    Think aug60 calls will have value tomm?

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  2. Heckler

    What do you think makes people want to climb over each other and chase these stocks up, only for them to get sold down hard for the next year?

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    • Option Addict

      Last blog…$ACIA. It’s FOMO. The unwashed get so fixed on the whole “WOW, OMG!!!” They lose sight of risk management, some common sense, etc. They don’t realize that these stocks are being pushed to transfer the shares from strong hands to the weaker ones.

      Never been bit by this before? Shit, I chased stuff all the time in 99-00 when I was only a couple years into trading.

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      • Heckler

        I’ve been bit before for sure. Highway robbery.

        But I understand what you’re saying. If it gets pushed up a little in the next couple of days people will just have to own some… and then they’ll be left holding a bag of dicks for two years.

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  3. wizardSleeve

    Long here but assuming more pain ahead after the slight poleaxing today with some profit taking and stops kicking in. Prob going to hear much gnashing of teeth about the multiple, the same “overvalued” call you mentioned on twtr. I like the story here – we’ll see. Appreciate your conversations and insights on these guys.

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  4. greenlander1

    If we get that blow off top to the 70’s, would you consider shorting it? Both BABA, TWTR had multi mo declines afterwards

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  5. scarface

    So if we open flat or slightly red what strike would you get for SEPT? Thanks boss. #missedtheTWLOfunandwantin

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  6. Pip53

    Well I guess I’ll have to get back in. I followed your original call and bought the August 43’s. However since I put to much money in and the drop days later made me to uncomfortable. I got caught up thinking of how much I’d make and not about how much I could lose. My $2.65/call quickly traded down about 50% and I got out around stock price 39 I’d say. just let my emotions rule the trade. Of course I then watched as those same calls traded up to around the $20/call average. lesson learned, proper capital allocation and trade size management. Ouch.

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    • Option Addict

      Wait, you lost money on this move?

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      • pip53

        yep, I had set a stop at the recent lows which was around 40 ish. I work nights and sleep most days so I set stops. albeit not always in the right places. looking back I see it just ran back to its previous breakout.

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    • mfalke

      This has happened to everybody if they’ve been around long enough. Even the very best ideas will be money losers if sized too large.

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  7. kdogg1787

    Whats a Twilio? And I ask this after a google search…

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  8. og

    Cramer still seems to be pumping this and Vonage.

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  9. chiefton15

    Oil is paying big time. This is the spot for copper I’m long here 2.167 stop at 2.130

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  10. Decrima

    RH is up after hours. I took some Nov 35 calls a couple days ago.

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  11. kidstockibc

    A sharp break in Gold tonight might tipoff a monster Friday rally…lots of guys betting SPX closes under 2200 tomorrow.

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    • canalsrb

      Hopefully this is the breakdown that finally sticks… my $JDST would appreciate it!!! Haha

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  12. Market Observer

    This is a $30 stock. You’d be sorry trying to buy it here.

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  13. MSGT HARTMAN

    Tencent +5.18% today
    Single best idea…

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  14. ThomasJefferson

    Sentiment intriguing, I’m a buyer.

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  15. golflover123

    Ok call me Blue Star, Bchu, brother n law or another contrarian indicator but I initiated new positions in SPY puts today in W 23 strike 211 @ 1.25
    Week 4 or 30th strike 210 @ 1.34
    VIX calls Oct 19 20 calls @ 1.35
    And SPY Dec 220 puts at 7.85
    Glta

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    • Option Addict

      Lol. Why would I call you anything? You fit the role of every other trader this year. No need to isolate a name, you are now “they.” Not a contrarian. I was the contrarian this year.

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      • golflover123

        Just throwing my bets out

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      • golflover123

        If they don’t work can I get a loan )

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        • Option Addict

          Contrarian to what though? Do you read this site? Contrarian to me? Am I on the other side of your VIX or SPY?

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          • golflover123

            No man nothing meant towards you….just the masses

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          • Option Addict

            Bro, who’s the masses? I’m the ONLY person on this site trading stocks.

            Grab a seat on the ark dude. Just be careful labeling yourself contrarian, or blasting that in my comments at me like I’m on the other side of your trade. I don’t belong in this conversation.

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          • golflover123

            Like I said man, nothing directed towards you (your an awesome trader) I’m just saying my thoughts and that is the market has stayed up for too long and is due a pull back and just posted my bets….I’m most likely going to be kicked in the face….

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          • Option Addict

            Just say you bought puts then. Don’t ask me to address you as something you’re not. You’re just another trader in a crowded trade.

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          • golflover123

            Yes sir

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    • golflover123

      Oh and a Oct Vix 20 call at 1.35

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  16. thomasjefferson

    $wnc is silent. Goodness it looks nice. I am already heavy energy/transports ($kmi/$yrcw/$eca plus lots of shares), but maybe there’s room for more boring on my book

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  17. canalsrb

    OA – Great after hours session tonight. The trading psychology based sessions are always helpful. If you miss a setup here and there, there will always be another… but a trader/investors psyche is irreplaceable and a lot harder to recover. (I’m definitely well versed in the recovering side of it…) Thanks.

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    • Option Addict

      Thanks my man. Had to shake it up a bit tonight. Good to have this conversation often, as many don’t stop to determine if their approach is appropriate based on their own strengths/weaknesses. Easy to make adjustments, but some don’t even realize that those little tweaks have a major impact on the success/failure of a system.

      The mental game is most important though, I agree.

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    • heckler

      +1 this is the shit right here. This and the set ups, lol. (still watching, btw)

      Also I feel compelled to say that fools who ain’t on board need to get a little tighter with The Option Addict.

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  18. Z

    OA – great call for weeks and weeks to ignore all the indexes and focus on the hot stocks – two of the hottest being ACIA and TWLO. Arguably – what kept people out of them was over thinking – specifically – “it already ran up a lot – it can’t run up more.” Obviously in a stock picker hot momentum market – that is exactly what they do – they continue to run. While both look extended now – it’s a good reminder for traders in the future that in a low volatility market where the indices are doing nothing – the hot money will keep pushing the few hot stocks higher and higher and higher.

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    • Option Addict

      Yep. In the IPO stages value means nothing. It’s all about a new issue, momentum, and what people are willing to pay for a ride on that train. Was Twitter ever worth 75? Lol

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  19. purdy

    On difference between TWLO and TWTR/BABA is the volume in TWLO on that long tailed candle of August 15th. Looks capitulatory.

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    • ThomasJefferson

      $twtr had a similar day with elevated volume followed by several down days. It only looks small in retrospect because of the huge volume into the subsequent chase. $baba looks to have done something similar but not identical.

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  20. kidstockibc

    Gold weakness and TLT gap lower could setup a big day for the financials…stay tuned.

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  21. purdy

    TWLO will dip down into the $51s where shorts will cover. It will bounce there, but not approach recent highs. Neither will shorts re-load on the coming bounce. mywag

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  22. k_melancon

    I am on the train – got some TWLO 60s at the open.

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  23. kidstockibc

    Bot CBIS and TRTC shares on the close yesterday…keep an eye on the group for addl upside

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  24. lplongo

    Also picked up a single TWLO call at the open. Also a few FCX Sept

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  25. marc

    $UA quietly breaking out

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  26. Thomas Jefferson

    Was on the road at the open, missed my fill in $TWLO (it was chopping so I went slightly below the mid bid/ask). Contract is up 50% since then. Oh well. Onto the next one.

    Closed out my $DE YOLO for a double. Got in a day early but happy for the win. It will be difficult to refrain from Q3 earnings trades, but I imagine we’ll be in a heightened state of volatility by then. Either way it’s fun to gamble when you have a little house money.

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    • Thomas Jefferson

      Holy Shit I sold that $DE early. First time I’ve ever traded someone that reported the damn morning of expiry. Didn’t really know what to expect. Lesson learned.

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  27. purdy

    CREE.

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  28. bensteinsmoney

    OA, how’s SFUN looking?

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  29. Formergeek

    Knew I should have bought that bloodbath in GEO, CXW at least for this bounce. Oh well

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  30. Formergeek

    Holy footlocker

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  31. k_melancon

    NFLX coiled up today is one big consolidation looking good for the afternoon

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  32. Heckler511

    This has been a great morning for me to practice not checking my account balance….

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    • Option Addict

      Why’s that? Because stuff is working? lol

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      • Heckler511

        I have the day off… I woke up and looked at all my shit deep red. But with TLT and GLD down I figured it’s probably okay. Went back to bed.

        And I’m trying to not react and not get shimmy shaked out of winners too early… so instead of micro managing the first hour I did nothing and I think I’m better off for it 🙂

        Like you said last night if account balance fluctuations get to you then don’t even look haha

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  33. k_melancon

    BIDU is making me happy….so is TWLO

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  34. Thomas Jefferson

    Earnings trades for next week:
    http://finviz.com/screener.ashx?v=211&o=-marketcap&t=lfc,tol,wsm,dg,sdlp

    Includes a bonus short of $DG.

    $WSM’s volatility isn’t all that low, but it feels like $URBN to me. So that’s kind of instinct trading. Beware.

    Short list, but I like them all. I think I’ll try and trade each (except maybe $SDLP, which is a bit thin). And I already have $NMBL on.

    $GME also reports next week. I know folks had their eye on that one.

    (also take the reporting date with a grain of salt as both FinViz and GoogleFinance had $SFUN wrong)

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  35. lesurgeon

    PEIX, the chart though.. Looks proper.

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  36. Heckler511

    So it looks like GLD and TLT are setting up for a move. What do you guys think? Do they follow XLU and break lower?

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  37. k_melancon

    looks like TWLO is going to get pegged to $55 today

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  38. k_melancon

    FIT and GPRO look good – nice wedges in both

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  39. lplongo

    Anyone have an opinion on KORS here? Pretty certain we see 53 soon. From there, just under 58.

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  40. Richard

    Debating taking off my UWTI. Held this thing through a rough 30% drop. What are people’s upside targets on oil?

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  41. baba

    OA
    $FDX still like it? I am obsessed with that, for good or bad.

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  42. Thomas Jefferson
    Thomas Jefferson

    You better get a new post up before we hit 100 comments and seal our fate!

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  43. bensteinsmoney

    SCWX wants to BTFO …

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  44. Richard

    Adding to my FCX here. Leaving room for one more add in case they break it down below $11.70

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