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AHWOA Starts NOW!

After Hours with Option Addict members, the room is open. In spirit of the long holiday weekend, we are now up and running. Starting early, so you can get to your weekend plans.

See you inside,

OA

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56 comments

  1. matt_bear

    well, the portfolio has been tented. like after a raid can bomb going off, all the worthless options are being swept away into the trash likes termites and cockroaches.
    fresh start on monday.

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  2. UncleBuccs

    Danny1980 – I missed your comment Re $RMBS earlier. Man, it is in that zone. Denial, here we come!

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  3. ho_chi_min

    still says i have to pay…SCAM

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  4. Danny1980

    Damn going over some stuff and saw that at 10:30 today had you bought the $545 CMG put YOLO for .01 you could have sold before market close at $17…..wow

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    • ripper

      said the degenerate options gambler. always in search for the next lotto ticket.

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  5. yoshii11

    borrowed from the library front lines “To catch a trader” DVD…fascinating info on insider trading and the investigation/charges against SAC and its managers. Cohen only had to pay $1.8 billion after building personal wealth of at least $8 billion. His hedge fund would charge 3 and 50 vs. the industry average of 2 and 20…meaning 2% charge for assets under management and 20% of profits. So he charged 3% and kept HALF of the profits. Expensive but it was worth it because after all those charges…for multiple years, his return was 60%…so as an investor you earned 30% after all fees. They paid the highest commissions in the industry which afforded them “first call” basis for any info that would move stocks.

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  6. yoshii11

    I recommend you watch it if that interests you at all. It was great learning about how they built a network of insiders and utilized a third party as the liaison to facilitate some of that insider info. They would literally get phone calls just minutes prior to upgrades/downgrades and mint fortunes based on that…same with clinical drug trial results. We all know it still happens today, and this DVD was great for getting an in depth perspective into the hedge fund life cycle and investigation into Cohen/SAC.

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  7. yoshii11

    correction, might have been the firm that had to pay $1.2-$1.8billion in a settlement, instead of Cohen…unbelievable how he can claim ignorance on all the insider info and keep that wealth.

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    • ironbird

      That is the worst part of this corrective tape. The scumbags(hft as well) being brought to light. It just sounds dangerous to fuck with the game makers and not expect a tape heart attack of some kind. Not exactly a normal wall of worry.

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  8. chiefton15

    Holding Yelp and FCX and shorted gold at the close 1294.8. Held off buying any else. Need to see how the market acts on Monday.
    Enjoy the 3 day weekend!

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  9. mickeyrobbie

    PLUG maybe FCEL next?

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  10. Danny1980

    Hello out there???/…lol

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    • mickeyrobbie

      Yep pretty quiet. I might have to exit the room if I don’t get my shit together here also…

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  11. matt_bear

    how you feeling jeff? everything come out ok?

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  12. cheesetrader

    we’re like lost little puppies….

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  13. Danny1980

    I took a Short term SPY put at 186.88. For .27 184’s

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    • Jacked Rabbit

      Good luck, Danny! I’m looking at that UA put here, but the spread here is atrocious…

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  14. Danny1980

    If it breaks HOD I’ll cover

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  15. chiefton15

    Out half Yelp +3.5.

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  16. chiefton15

    tough spot for the market here. I’m starting to see a number of inverse etf set up. I think you have to be a little careful here.

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  17. chiefton15

    trying a short here 48.5 NQ. Very Small position

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  18. chiefton15

    out 44.5 +4. Silly trade. Time to pack up for the day. Holding gold short and long FCX and half yelp

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  19. charlie

    Here’s some long ideas that are pulling in or flattish today but aren’t broken:

    plug
    splk
    wday
    data
    dang
    gme
    yge
    scty

    I’m long a few of them.

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  20. charlie

    Buying ol’ girl down here before Wednesday’s AMC earnings mighty tempting.

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  21. Danny1980

    For those interested I closed my SPY puts for a small loss and Opened some $1260 stiles in Priceline Aprils

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  22. Danny1980

    Not stiles CALLS damn how did that happen

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  23. chiefton15

    out gold +2.5. Will revisit again This thing is gonna break at some point. See you guys later

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  24. matt_bear

    is the OA group dead? is TA on?

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  25. Granpa

    Jeff, are you back or still in recovery is what everyone wants to know. Hope you are well.

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  26. Jolly

    A post created 5 days ago and only 33 comments? This place used to be the talk of all iBC.

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  27. azulgrana

    soooo. if you were out pimping WFC short as “good risk/reward” a few days ago, how is that analysis holding up now? ..frankly, good R/R is being accountable for your trade and doing a horizon analysis, if youre gonna recommend it to others

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  28. Jacked Rabbit

    I think we’re beginning to see wall of worry, which I will avoid playing because a) I’m not in it already and b) high IVs make options too expensive at this time. I’d like to think that the wall of worry rally will bleed off the price of the option itself. I look forward to aversion next week in some of these names, which I will then start initiating June positions.

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    • azulgrana

      yeah i agree with that, im taking the TNA off, think we’ll catch some resistance here, and look to add to some favorite LT stuff on a retest + plus another TZA/TNA range trade..maybe TZA here at RUT 1158/1160

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      • Jacked Rabbit

        azul, I think TNA trade could be good for another 5 points on the Russell. That was the last swing high a couple of weeks ago. I think maybe a gap up open someday this week around that area would probably be sold off. Best of luck!

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        • azulgrana

          i think thats entirely possible….ive been a bag holder a couple times here though..

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  29. chiefton15

    Should’nt have sold gold so early but I’m all out yelp with a fill of 68.85 +5.8. Win some you lose some. Only position I’m holding right now is FCX

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  30. daveh

    Bought BAC calls this morning. May 17’s. Chart looks good friends.

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  31. charlie

    Sucks OA is still out, hope he is doing well.

    We still can make some money though. Hard to chase most of our usual names today, but take a look at YELP GME and TWTR. All 3 are constructive and still fueling rockets on intraday and short term time frames.

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    • Jacked Rabbit

      Ditto on OA, hope there is some sort of younger nurse involved. When do you see getting into those? There were some names that have bought up, and that bloop (plus some serious yips on my part) tells me to wait. Time to be aggressive?

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      • yoshii11

        for those names I’d say if you wanted to be agressive with stock you could…but I wouldn’t open long option positions on them today other than for a scalp. Better off in the long haul sticking to precise entries imo. twtr already up 4 of 5 last days, beyond 10% move. Patience when initial moves are missed.

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        • Jacked Rabbit

          Thanks Yoshii, I’ve had huge problems with overtrading this market on the options side. Just need to focus on the stock side and continue to make gains there, at least in the near term.

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      • charlie

        I bought stock. OA has still be wary of a lot of option plays given all the chop.

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        • cheesetrader

          @Charlie – that’s what I’ve been doing – equities rather than options – at least for now

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        • Jacked Rabbit

          Thanks charlie and cheese. I’m here specifically to learn more about options, so it’s tough for me to not get right in there and start learning hands and cash-on.

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  32. yoshii11

    I know some people think stops are evil, in which case, yes, they can be manipulated to cheat you out of a position…but they can also save you from blowing profits or suffering big losses. I got stopped out of OAS yesterday, which I’m fine with because it went on a decent run. If we are in an environment where you lock in quick gains as opposed to allowing them to run, you also have to be quick to cap the downside. Whenever that changes, and we can allow our winners to run more, then you can allow for more wiggle room to the downside as well. Its not exact science by any means. The main point being if you are going to cap winners, then you have to be quick to cap losers too. (This main point is nothing new, I’m sure I’ve heard OA state something similar).

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  33. yoshii11

    not in it, but ATHM does look like a floor has been put in, likely to run to 40 and see what happens there. setting up against today’s resistance high…having moved already 5%. So for an option, looking for a possible retest in the coming days…hoping to buy down, not up.

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    • bob

      next time you are about to post, stop for a minute, and then dont

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      • yoshii11

        May God bless you and give you the strength and wisdom to handle whatever adversity you may have or will have in your life going forward.

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  34. charlie

    PLUG okay here if you only want to buy something on sale. At the lower end of it’s range, unbroken. (no position)

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  35. charlie

    KBH still cheap

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  36. matt_bear

    my largest position is FSLR jan15 $75’s….i’m thinking my new strategy is to make it my only position. lol

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