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The above scene brought to you by Obamacare rationing. Get used to it.
Seriously, I hate to go on and on, but this Obamacare bill before Congress right now could be the worst legislation rammed through the Congress since the bad old days when Wilson okay’d the Fed and then got the 16th Amendment passed, essentially giving the Federal Gummint the license to meddle with your pay forever.
You owe it to yourself to take the painful steps to read at least a couple of pages — just open it up in the middle, anywhere — it’s 100% bad from nave to chaps.
And if you aren’t keyed up enough to get angry for your own families’ sake, then at least feel some empathy for the Canadians that will lose their only available avenue to decent healthcare.
Wake up and do the research, America, before you wreck the greatest health care system and innovation purveyor on the globe. Follow http://twitter.com/fleckman as well, for all the latest on the Healthcare bill. I’d send you to his blog, but it’s been literally innundated with visitors and therefore cannot handle the traffic at this point. His stuff on Twitter has links and downloads that are very helpful, however.
Remember, you are a sovereign citizen. Take back your country from the authoritarians who would order your life for you, and limit your freedom. Even if you voted for Obama, you didn’t vote for this.
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The Jacksons were off a mere tad today (0.4%) but are still returning a blink under 19% since May. As mentioned Monsanto Company [[MON]] had a huge day, which promises more in future. Thompson Creek Metals Company, Inc. [[TC]] was up even more, and don’t act like I haven’t been pounding the table on both it and Teck Cominco Limited (USA) [[TCK]] . I continue to pound. You must endeavour (sic) to listen.
More on the juniors that I will be purchasing tomorrow. Until then…
Best of health to you all.
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“the Canadians that will lose their only available avenue to…” (decent?) “…health…” (care?). How can feeding off the ill and disabled like some succubus be considered either ‘decent’, or ‘care’, I wonder?
Anyway, I better just have a quick look at that link to see what it’s abou…. ohhoo; thought you would get me there, eh Jake? I’m not falling for that one…. Dpeez is probably still trying to close that poisonous ‘Zinn’ page you linked him to in your last post, poor little blighter.
Keep in mind Jake, I would never mock you for eating MON, or any of their ubiquitious products. Quite the contrary, I encourage you, wholeheartedly, in your current habit of consumption. Fill your boots, stuff your gizzard, gorge yourself on as much ‘steak tartar’, foie gras, and blue rare burgers from some clown faced fast food joint as you possibly can, for every meal, 24-7. Please, do us all a favour.
‘ubiquitous’ (lazy proof-read)
Look at that, a socialist wishing my quick death. What do they say in Montreal (when they can’t find a chemo schedule?) “Quelle Suprise!”
Guess he doesn’t like what he’s hearing.
Pity.
“Look at that, a socialist wishing my quick death” Your mistake Jake. Like so many other arguments, you have the semantics all muddled. You mistakenly (surprise surprise) assume socialists are inherently ‘hippy love children’; whereas I am a secular humanist simply unwilling to personify you.
No, no, jk. I like to think I am more of a secular socialist/capitalist.
“B-But that’s impossible!” cries Jake (possibly). But then, he’ s a bit of an idiot that way. (I was going to write ‘idiot-savant’, but I think that would be giving him way too much credit.). I am not going into some lengthy explanation of my character here for Jake to misquote, misunderstand, mistake, misinterpret, etc., as is his wont.
And no, generally, I don’t like what I see from your Quackspeak Jake. You and your ilk have so much waking up to do I wonder if the coma has left your brains permanently damaged… at least you still have a sense of humour left, acerbic as it is. Too bad you can’t use your wit to see that the class of people you are constantly/desperately attempting to align yourself with truly couldn’t give a rats ass whether or not you live or die, just so long as you go round and round their mulberry bush until you do. And the likelihood you will get into their ‘club’, well, you’d be better off buying lottery tickets. Your lack of integrity won’t help you there, either: they have even less of a social conscience than you do. Not to mention they see their club as having more than enough members already, thank you very much. I’m not saying it’s impossible, but membership does greatly depend on either how good you are at fellatio, or how much peanut butter you are willing to smear around your lips. Unless you were born into it, and then it has been proven through genetics that you are naturally inclined to be a big asshole that sucks cock.
Seriously though, honestly, Jake, I really don’t ‘wish’ for your death, be it quick or painless, it was merely meant as a jibe. You know what a jibe is, don’t you Jakey pookins? Did I hurt your widdle feewings?
Look – Jake assumes (like many Americans) that he understands the health care system here.
He’s wrong of course, because he limits his information to right wing bloggers who, if they live here, would rather live under the stars & stripes.
Bah humbug Jake.
Let’s put it this way – you refer to a single payer healthcare system as “rationing” but, how can you not admit that there is another form of rationing when someone goes into the emergency room in the States and the first question out of the mouth of the first nurse they meet is “do you have insurance”?
I’ve lived on both sides of the border. I know from whereof I speak.
You of course are intentionally straw manning.
Yes, the first question is how are you going to pay. That’s a rational question.
What the socialist leaves out (and this is important) are two things:
1) The person’s inability to pay does NOT preclude them from receiving care AND
2) The person will NOT be shunted to a waiting list to wait for days for a rationed health care provider, as happens frequently in “compassionate” Canuckistan.
If socialists would only learn the few basic rules of economics, they would understand that supply is a limited quantity.
There’s nothing “compassionate” about suffering with health problems from the governmentally (ie, artificially) constrained supply of health care.
Your high moral ground is a deep deep abyss.
So sorry.
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Methinks the moron doth protest too much.’
Keep the ranting to a minumum, will you please? I’ve only got so much time. If you haven’t any fact to proffer, then leave off. I’m not interested in your emo outbursts.
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Thanks and appreciation for the updates Jake, and keeping my interest peaked in the sector. I’m looking to reload again since trading profitably out of PAAS recently for some other, ill timed purchases.
By the way, I just posted a bit about Phil Ehrlich and John Holdren in your previous segment.
Holdren is an Ehrlich disciple… that pick, above maybe even any other, shows Obama for what he really is.
Hard, anthracite-hard, Left.
Who next? Peter Singer maybe?
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the health care bill is not going to happen.
From your mouth to God’s ears.
Shit doesn’t happen if you don’t make noise though, so continue voicing your displeasure.
These idiots think that if they can ram it through fast enough, no one will notice.
Saul Alinski, 101.
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Manuel gave a good synopsis of some of the key provisions in the comments section of my Bear’s Club post.
They are fucking outrageous.
I have already written my congress people but I am picking up the phone tomorrow and they will hear me this time.
As I’ve mentioned before, and above… Mr. Fleckenstein (God save his blog) has gone through the first 700 pages of the bill, line by line and detailed every atrocity within it.
It’s fucking horryifying, and I am not using that term with any degree of exaggeration.
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Thanks Jake for expressing this viewpoint. It’s good to know that not everyone has been brainwashed by the false Democrat-Republican dichotomy and the cable news political analysis filter, and that someone still believes in liberty. Veritas vos Liberabit
Don’t give him too much credit, it’s not like he rarely does this!
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Now I shall proceed to make an argument in the JakeGint way: state something that I believe in wholeheartedly, without feeling the need to back it up with any substantial arguments (just state my thesis, if you will); and in the process imply that you’re beyond retarded if you don’t see the truth of my ways.
Here it goes…
Universal healthcare is long overdue and would be the greatest piece of legislation passed in recent memory.
Sadly, it won’t pass. It will be yet another example of America thinking it’s better than the rest of the (industrialized) world, all of whom have implemented some form of universal health care. It’s ok to admit that the current system has failed. Time to learn from those other, just as intelligent forms of life, FOREIGNERS!
Fun fact: the US is 2nd amongst UN nations in health care spending as % of GDP, with 15.2%. The only country higher is the fucking Marshall Islands. The overwhelming majority of nations is easily below 10%.
What was that about higher cost of U.H.C.?
and that spending is a more insidious form of rationing in that only the most well off can receive proper treatment.
That’s a total lie. In the U.S., even the indigent can receive the best healthcare. In Canada, even the well to do, sit on gurneys and wait for the government to allocate them something they can pay for.
That’s why they come here.
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That’s because we are subsidizing every healthcare system on the globe. We create, innovate and build the healthcare that becomes commoditized (eventually).
The bit about where will Canadians go for their cutting edge healthcare was only half a joke. Without our system, there will be very little innovation and the entire world will suffer as a result, not just our freeloaders to the North.
I don’t blame the US for rebelling against this subsidization, btw… I just don’t think that stabbing ourselves in the neck is the answer to it.
Now, if you have a rational economic answer to this argument, I’m all ears. If you can only mouth left wing talking points, don’t bother, I’ve heard them.
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ahaha…oh noes! If we don’t innovate, the whole world will fall into darkness! Plagues will come and we’ll revert back to the Dark Ages! The only form of medicine practiced will once again just be ‘bloodletting’.
Right.
But thanks for so eloquently proving my previous point of how the USA thinks is so much better than the rest of the civilized world.
Also, I don’t have an economic answer to the argument…because this isn’t an economic question. It’s a social question.
If privatized health care works so well, why don’t we do the same with the police force & the fire departments? That way, my taxes won’t get wasted on the highway cops who patrol the ‘other’ freeway, the one that I never use. And since I would be able to afford “fire-care” and the neighbor a couple houses down wouldn’t, when his house catches on fire, I will call my guys and we’ll just sit in my yard and enjoy the show (and be ready to douse the flames if they get to my house).
That’s a very logical argument D-Peez.
Forgive me for having mistaken you for an adult. My bad.
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LOL. No problem. I forgive you.
Logic had left this tab a long time ago; didn’t think you cared too much about it.
But seriously, go fuck yourself. Thanks for reminding what an enormous waste of time it is to read and comment on your chauvinistic little corner of the internet.
Be well, my sad, old, tragic internet friend. And as always, keep a vigilant eye about you. You never know when and where ‘The Reds’ (or others with differing opinions) might strike.
Listen, don’t go away mad, just go away.
I’m sorry I challenged your childish argument that services long provided by the public sector are equivalent to modern healthcare, which needs innovation to advance.
Not saying law enforcement doesn’t, or even fire safety… it’s just not as critical as life saving drugs and medical products.
Again, thanks for playing… but leave the common left wing illogicisms at home next time.
Don’t worry, I’m not going to waste my time on you any longer.
I’ll leave you to spread your own special brand of hate, libel, prejudice, double standards, pettiness, tragedy, sadness, and ignorance in peace.
And you give yourself way too much credit if you think I’m going to get “mad” at some random internet jerkoff who gets his jollies by insulting other random internet denizens.
DPeez — you’re still angry. And yet, you haven’t offered one single fact that might support your argument that a government takeover of our health care system would be a good thing.
For goodness sakes, I’m the one who should be angry.
But I’m not, because, you see your lack of argument proves my point.
Isn’t rhetoric great?
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Well, it’s obvious that the USA is better than that shithole you’ve emmigrated from, no?
Obviously. As it’s not the USA, it must be shithole. You are wise, master samurai.
I think he meant — “you’re here now, no?”
Slovakia mustn’t have been all get out.
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Once (if, ever) you understand the difference between…
“it’s obvious that the USA is better than that shithole you’ve emmigrated [sic] from”
and
“you’re here now”
…you just might complete your journey towards becoming a complete and compassionate human being.
Jake got it and not suprisingly, DPZ missed it. If your former homeland was so terrific, why come here?
Perhaps ‘shithole’ was a bit severe, but relative to the states, it is a third world country, yes?
edit: surprisingly
Well, to their credit, they are climbing out of 50 years of socialist ruination on their economy.
I just can’t for the life of me figure why their emigres don’t have the logical capacity to understand how that kind of life while propagandized as “compassionate” was anything but?
It would be a real shame if said emigres were to have to figure that out for themselves, via the imposition of a bureaucratic gov’t system here.
That’s way too expensive an “I told you so” for me.
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That whole “we subsidize the world through our innovation” argument gets my vote for the loopiest aggrandizement ever framed as “patriotism”.
It’s kinda like jingoism on steroids.
That’s your typical knee jerk reply, Cuervo.
Perhaps if you had some logical facts or even a piteous level argument to array against it, you’d gain some credibility.
Until then, we still provide 90% of all new drugs produced EVERY YEAR.
How many does Canuckistan produce?
No worries, that last was rhetorical. Loopy this, fuckstick, you lose.
Uggghhh, I reread my post late last night – clarification in serious order.
Paul Erhlich is the big time pig (besides being proved dead wrong on his predictions), John is like the nicest, sweetest guy (and not in a manchurian candidate kinda way) that always happens to be the smartest person in the room.
Anyway, I just don’t see John being into Paul’s kind of social engineering at all and bringing that agenda to the table (especially since it’s long since been proven an incorrect theory) – so I’m not losing sleep on the connection to the book.
I’m a pretty conservative guy so I’m not predisposed to cut him a break if that helps.
The healthcare debate is one I’m deep into, and though I’m not into the Gov’t running the system at all (I trained in part in an enormous VA hospital in Miami) I think the current system has been so tampered with ultimately it must be thrown away. Short term I don’t see revolutionary change, long term I can’t see how we will avoid a canadian model tiered system with a core level of support (state sponsored) and a free market segment that will be whatever you can imagine and pay for on top ot that. During the transition “There will be blood.” I just pray the mechanism to fund the state portion is rational, fair, and fixed to some meaningful benchmark rather the the complete lunacy of taxing a segment of the population.
Public Healthcare Sucks. In Canada you have to wait forever, sure it’s free but if you don’t have / renew your card they WILL NOT HELP YOU. Friend of mine had metal in his eye and they sent him downtown to get his card renewed first. It’s BS.
No, that’s rationing.
The most hilarious concept — pushed about by some of the more leftward Canuckistanian bent here — is that they try to push the idea that a government institution — a bevy of bureaucrats — can somehow be compassionate with regard to an allocation of resources.
Has that ever happened since the first bureaucrat rose up in Babylonia?
But it is the Left’s primary quest to deny human nature. One of the idiots actually tried to aver that socialism was possible without Statist authoritarianism to police it.
All history to the contrary.
This is only kinda’ funny. More frightening than funny.
Damn right it’s frightening. I’m not kidding about calling your Congresscritter and making it known you will work your fingers to the bone making sure he/she is not re-elected if they pass this garbage.
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Thanks for the anectdotal evidence Dubz. I think you can prove that the Q-ray wrist band works with that sort of ‘reasoning’. Now that is BS….
Care to expand? I’ve been to the emergency room and rotted. I’ve needed stomach surgery and had it postponed, postponed then canceled saying I “don’t need it”. I’d much rather have premium service and pay for it, this is my health, my life.
More of the same, Dubz, that is all you are offering. I could spend ten minutes and find you thousands of positive examples (even excluding my own personal experience, which has been exemplary) that contradict your assertions, np. As a Canadian, I think of people in the health care profession as a type of true hero. I am very grateful for all they have done for me and mine, whenever and wherever I needed it. And I am very proud to have a surgeon as a neighbour. But not because of his 2009 Beemer.
I am no doctor, but you still seem to be able to type, so I will have to assume you survived without the stomach surgery you claim to ‘need’. Your time in the emergency room, was it actually an emergency? Were you spouting blood from some major artery at a rate of a litre/minute, or was it more akin to some pimple you were having a hard time bursting?
DPeezy makes an excellent point: private systems of Health ‘Care’, like that of the US, tend to cost taxpayers more than the public model, and provide service to a much smaller segment of the population for which they are supposed to ‘care’. This is a verifiable fact. That is what I mean by avoiding anectdotal evidence, comprends tu?
The stomach is for a hernia / ripped stomach muscle, I keep getting “different answers” and have let it rest. If you need a transplant or something serious you have to go on a waiting list. I’d call it more a waiting to die list. Several older folk I know go to the US for surgery as it’s not worth the wait. I’m not saying it’s all bad but it’s not great by any means.
What I’m getting at is I like the freedom to choose. I believe there should be an option when you pay your taxes for subsidized or private. I’d go private in a heart beat.
Besides saying your neighbor is a Surgeon and you’ve had good experiences, what have you provided for your part of the argument besides such said “verifiable facts”? So with that I say “thank you, for the anecdotal evidence”.
That’s not a verifiable fact in any sense. You are a liar, or delusional.
Sorry Dubz., the reply was to the socialist lying about his system and ours again.
You are wasting your time asking him to prove what he says. He cannot, and he cannot, and he will spend much of his time ad homming you instead.
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Reading and comprehension ain’t your strong points, eh Dubz? Spelling apparently isn’t mine: ‘anecdotal’. Apply polly logies to the pedants.
Jake: “It is reasonably well known that for some time the United States has spent more per capita on health care than other countries. What may be less well known is that the United States has had one of the highest growth rates in per capita health care spending since 1980 among higher income countries.” from Kaiser Family Foundation, reputable enough source for you Jakesky?
A robust, well-managed, publicly funded health care system voids your ridiculous cry of ‘Freedom of Choice’ Dubz. Sure, if you want to have penises grafted onto your nipples, you might have to wait a long time for such a service in Canada, but when you are having such life altering surgery, mb it’s a good idea to think about it for awhile anyway, no?
And you’re absolutely correct, sirrah, it is only an example of my personal set of mores when I say that my conscience cannot afford me the practice of waving a c-note under the doctor’s nose so that I can butt ahead of some poverty stricken unfortunate to receive a medical service that I simply desire, or will live if I have to wait for it, but he actually needs to avoid an untimely death. Exigency, not wealth, should drive health care priority, anyone who thinks otherwise and can sleep at night is sociopathic, IMHO.
Your “conscience” does not have any logical faculties. That’s why if we followed it,. we’d doom our healthcare system to penury, and the entire globe’s overall health to a large step back.
The only way to achieve your ends is by rationing, and sucking the investment potential out of the system. That leaves nothing but dry bones, excuse the metaphor.
Your emo argument loses, the world wins.
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I think the stories of folks waiting are few for outrageous lengths of time are few and far between.
Case in point – a good friend of mine is in her 80s and the doctor detected what appeared to be a cancerous growth. Now this was in Toronto so we are talking of the following:
1. An elderly person with a potentially life threatening disease who was a seamstress (i.e. not a rich person)
2. In a large metropolis (large for Canada OK?)
Under a “rationed” healthcare mindset one would expect that she would have died from being put on a waiting list and forgotten.
I mean – that’s what all the right wingers screech about right?
Anyways – unlike the US where she would have had to wait for her HMO or Medicare to approve the procedure(s) the following happened:
1. She was scheduled for immediate priority MRI and Biopsy (results back in 10 days)
2. Within two weeks she had a lumpectomy and the biopsy came back negative.
NOW PERSONALLY, I’ve had to wait a long time to have blood work done or seen my family doctor go through a huge list of patients in one day.
We (my family) even have a story of a long wait – six hours in an emergency room ON A PROVINCIAL HOLIDAY. OOh my. Quell tragique!
The simple fact is that the vast majority of Canadians and residents here receive perfectly acceptable and timely medical care.
How do I determine that? Well simply by this statistic:
From the richest of the rich to the homeless – Canadians and residents here live longer than Americans.
Even the homeless who sure to God don’t have the money to fly to the States for a minor surgery, outlive their counterparts in the land of the free and the home of the brave.
Jake, you should cease with your babbling about Canada until you live here a couple of years.
Don’t you get it yet, CL? Just a couple anecdotes of long wait times automatically excludes and invalidates universal health care.
Because I (or anybody else in the USA) have never EVER had to wait to see a doctor. Or, god forbid, go to the emergency room and later find out that it’s “outside the network”. The free mocking laughter of the HMO accountants is usually included for free when THAT bill comes.
No system is perfect. Sometimes, even the Japanese and German trains run a few minutes behind schedule.
But taking the profit game out of our citizens’ health can only be a good thing.
And yes, Canadians live longer. That just might have something to do with U.H.C’s emphasis on preventive medicine. Just like a car, regular tuneups will generally let you avoid unexpected major (and expensive) problems down the road. When you can go see your doctor for ‘free’, you’re far more willing to get checked out regularly.
Your statistic about a homegenous population of 28 million living longer than a heterogenous far more multiracial population of 310 million is retarded.
Admittedly, it’s not as bad as DPeezy’s “let’s make the police private because dat is duh same ting” left wing shibboleth, but it’s pretty close.
Apples to apples. One of those equal measures is that you are keeping your mostly white European and Asian population healthy via the drafting off of US medical technology.
I know DPeezy, who couldn’t find an economic argument if it slapped him in the face with a dead fish thinks that innovation is immaterial, or maybe the subject for silly jokes, but you — a numbers guy — at least recognize that that investment capital is a gargantuan measure of health equity in 2009.
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What is the deal with debating a right winger?
Why is it that they end up saying racist things? Debating “homogenous-ness” is essentially racism dressed in multi syllables Jake and you bear the weight of your own bigotry.
You also should know that the numbers don’t make a statistically significant difference. The demographics are different but here are some numbers for ya:
White/European – Canada 80% – US 74%
Asian – Canada 11.2% – US 4.4%
Black/African – Canada 2.5% – US 13.4%
Aboriginal (Native) – Canada 3.8% – US .82%
Other – Canada 2.5% – US 08%
Perhaps there is an opening for you on the Hal Turner blog Jakey. Seems right about your speed.
Not only are you a left wing douchebag, Cuervo, but you are also a gigantic coward.
Why is it the leftwingers always need to fall back on their favourite (sic) themes in order to justify their illogic?
Yes, I guess I am a racist in that I am pointing out the different etiologies that may cause a divergence between US and Canuckistantian health outcomes.
You provide the proof in your statistical analysis. How can you, with a straight face, claim that outcomes should be similar, with a completely opposite percentage of the most healthy populations and the least so?
Do you fall back on the parrot’s lefty squawk “Racism” because it’s easier than thinking for yourself?
Seriously, it’s the sign of a true left wing idiot — you either squeak “Racist” or “Nazi” or both.
Yet unbiased and globally vitiated healthcare analyses tell the tale, and… oh, why do I even freaking BOTHER?
Ad hom to the end, that’s the left. Carry on.
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A read for Jake Re: Gold Co. earnings from 24/7 Wall Street.
http://247wallst.com/2009/07/22/gold-trends-ahead-of-miner-earnings-abx-gg-gold-au-gld/#more-41678
Thanks TC.
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The one thing that might salvage this entire mess is to preserve freedom by using the process of “choice”. That seems to be totally and consistently ignored by Obama and his democratic machine. As long as the public is fed Soma by his daily bullshit pep talks, propagated without critical commentary by the liberal media, this bullshit will continue. Don’t be so sure that a modified version of this nonsense might be rammed through.
The bigger issue, again, is that the congress and president assume that it is perfectly reasonable to take away our choice/ freedom so that we can entitle “victims” in this society of bottom feeders.
Watch that video — the thing that Edwards says in the beginning? They all feel entitled to that extra-Consitutional allocation of power.
The Left is so far removed from the founding documents that they might as well be living in a different country.
They ignore them completely. That’s even worse than this healthcare thing… they need to be “retired” for another 30 years.
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Two to three years to get a family doctor!
YEAH! Get me summa THAT!
(Watch that video!)
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You also have to love the gummint woman telling the guy to go to a private clinic… lol.
Yeah, that’s “Equal treatment” all right, Lefties.
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There was a canadienne (sic) chick on the radio yesterday who said that soon after she found out she was preggers, she called to schedule an appt with a doctor. They told her the wait was “10-12” months…
That’s one way to save on all the pesky pre-natal care.
What a load of bollocks. End of.
Someone was having the host on.
Sounds like a Rick Mercer type joke.
Indeed, that family doctor thing is a problem in Canada. Jake’s emphatic advice: throw the baby out with the bath water.
Of course he fails to mention the root causes of this problem, as usual, because they are rooted in the onerous private system in place South of Canada, which is ruthlessly slavering at the prospect of what they see as an ‘untapped’ market to their north. Their modus operandi? Cause a crisis to the system in the North, then employ the tried and true crack dealer method of “Seeeee, we toldja it doesn’t work, just try a few private clinics.” And let chapter 11 of NAFTA take care of the rest.
That Private Clinic thing, which so far has been operating in Canada contrary to the Canada Health Act, is the thin end of the wedge, with Chapter 11 of NAFTA poised to act as sledgehammer. Jake, I am sure it will please you greatly to know that I fear for the sovereignty of Canada and Canadians.
Learn economics dingbat. The system doesn’t work because it’s underfunded, and it’s underfunded because there is no incentive — outside of government tax eating — to invest in it.
Get a life, socialism sounds like a good idea, but since it deadens incentives to economic actors, it does not work.
Odd, no?
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It’s a thin edge that will remain a thin edge.
The US doesn’t even hold up their end of NAFTA and keeps trying to foist their DMCA up here.
The vast majority of the populance above the 49 say “you can keep your private healthcare and your copyright laws down there thank you very much”.
Please, don’t lie.
Canuckistanians live off our healthcare innovation as it is.
They’d give their left tit not to have to cross the border for anything more pressing than mole removal.*
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* Pray it’s not cancerous mole removal, should you deign to wait in Canuckistania.
I’ll thank you for railing against this “reform”, Jake. I have been on the verge of vomiting for the past month as I’ve watched Obama persistently attempt to ram this through Congress with an incessant expression of the cat who got caught in the canary cage.
I cannot speak on behalf of Canadians, but visited Montreal a few years ago to see some relatives (Italian, on my mothers side, so it goes without saying that you can find room in any state or country around the globe, with much ease and a welcome embrace), and while I was there had the priviledge, you might say, of listening to them rant against their own system. Certainly that does not imply all Canadians feel this way, but I’d venture a guess many if not most of them do.
Perhaps that’s why so many Canadian officials come to the U.S. when they have medical needs? Sometimes value begots higher prices.
True… you don’t see Alex P. Keaton sticking around in Canada seeking a cure for his Parkinsons.
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Being from Canada my experience has been that if a person is in need of legitimate urgent health care, they get looked at and taken care of quickly.
Even though it might require the person to be bleeding or deathly sick.
I’m not sure how to compare the skill of our doctors to others as I’ve had some good and some bad experiences.
Visiting the family doctor or general practitioner is a head ache. Most are booked full, are not much help and switching is not on option.
We do have leeches here, bums and minorities who contribute nothing to society, receive monthly benefits and health care. Which is why I can see why some Americans would have a problem with universal health care, as they have a lot more leeches than us and fat people killing themselves and filling waiting rooms with diabetes.
I can’t imagine having to pay 15k to have a child, or 500k for cancer therapy.
You would think it would discourage those who shouldn’t procreate from doing so but it doesn’t.
Ketchup is all caught-up all right. Those same leeches are in every single system (just with different hair do’s) on a much more all encompassing demographic than Ketch has mentioned. However, in a private system, there seem to be a larger percentage that operate on the other side of the counter…
Nice underhand, Ketchup.
DMG,
No offense but to call a country a “shithole” I think one should first at least be able to spell it and point it out on a world map.
Now relax and treat yourself to another double big mac.
Give him time…DMG is but a learner of Master Gint’s ways. He’s still on lesson 1: “ad hominems and belittling, a primer”.
I’m trying to learn “the force” as well…but as I’m just a child, I’m not allowed to play with the big boys.
Is there anything more amusing than Canuckistanians with a chip on their shoulders?
Seriously, it’s the gift that keeps on giving.
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This blog is comedy gold in so many ways. The brothers Gint craft an especially seasoned blend of satire and farce.
I believed on first reading that it was intentionally so. Now, I wonder if they aren’t tragic too.
Catsoup –
I have been the czech republik and it is in fact, a shithole. Their $15 hookers are much prettier than the u.s. variety but that only shows you the shit-holy state of affairs in said country.
Fuck off-
This comment section has reminded me that my health card expired so even if I was sick I’d be rejected, even though I was born on the soil of this country.
Also unless you have a great job with benefits you still have to pay for most everything. We also have a shortage of family doctors. Part of the reason emergency is so clogged is because most people NEVER go to a doctor which is a kin to getting an oil change, they just keep going and going and going until they literally break down and need to be towed to the mechanics (emergency room) for some treatment.
Best teeth cleaning I ever had was in Central American and it costs only $10. Here it’s $150 and they push you through like cattle gums bleeding and all.
I am told by a friend that lives down in South Texas that there is a shadow market of very able private health care blossoming on the Mexican side of the border. As you know, Mexico also has atrocious governmental “health care” — and their horror stories are even worse than those of our angry Canuckistanian friends.
But apparently, this private health care market in Mexico has sprung up to service Americans with increasingly more sophisticated levels of treatments up to an including joint replacement surgery. And it’s good, from what I hear, clean and cheap.
Looks like NAFTA is working after all.
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Another interesting piece — a McClatchey newspaper poll (of Canadians) reports that a large percentage of Canadians think their health care is too expensive!
Lol. Imagine overpaying for crap? How…. Soviet!
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They should go to NJ where there’s no standing in line for a new kidney …. just bring your AMEX card cuz it will cost $160k for a fresh organ purchased from a down and out plebe for $10k …. when the American health care system fails here the well to do (repubs & demos) take care of themselves … Canadians should learn a thing or two about free markets and capitalism, jeesh!
Oh, and not to worry … the local pols in NJ will hook you up for a fee if you aren’t well connected … just don’t ask – don’t tell, ok?
Stop smoking that tea on the tracks.
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Just watch your nightly news Jake … Rabbis, pols and money launderers all busted by the feds … “tea” in my dictionary is Beer … just bring your axe (guitar) to the teahouse on the tracks ….
So, let’s take it seriously, then.
You think there’ll more or less black market transactions like this under Obamacare?
You have to admit, there’ll likely be at least a two-tiered system popping up.
One for the ultra wealthy, and one for the rest.
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